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Clarkstown District Shares Search Consultant Report

Discussion and survey results deal with qualities needed and district challenges

 

The Clarkstown School District posted the Specification Development Report prepared by the superintendent search consultant on its web site on Wednesday.  Dr. Charles Fowler, president of School Leadership LLC, made that recommendation to the board when he presented the suggested advertising and screening specifications at Monday night’s meeting.  The approximate 60-page report summarizes comments and input gathered by Fowler and his colleagues at community meetings scheduled over three days.

The report explained the purpose of the process of community meetings was to learn about the school district from those who live within it and are served by it. Rather, it was designed to gather general information regarding how the educational and lay communities view the current condition of the District and attempt to identify some of the District’s challenges and expectations as they relate to and affect the superintendent search process. 

158 people attended the community meetings. Of the 16 groups identified as ones the consultants should meet with, no-one was listed as attending who represented: high school teachers and related staff; special education teachers and related staff; middle school teachers and related staff; senior citizens and community organizations. 

The report stated that 470 people accessed the online survey.  The consultants used the survey as another means of gathering information about what people saw as the strengths of the district, challenges facing the superintendent and other issues. 

Among the characteristics most groups included as a district strength worthy of attracting a new superintendent were: it is a high performing district, history of supportive PTA, commitment to academic programs including International Baccalaureate and excellent teachers.

Among the expected leadership challenges facing a superintendent were: specifying the roles and responsibilities of board members and the superintendent, correcting building problems especially at Clarkstown North High School and leading in the board in a way that “heals and resolves past differences.

Suggested personal characteristics sought and background needed included: coalition builder, collaborative leader, good understanding of school finances, experienced superintendent form another large district. 

On the survey, the characteristic that garnered the most responses as being critical was “skilled in budgeting, finance and facility planning.” Followed by “experienced in providing leadership in a high-expectation suburban school district” and “skilled in providing instruction and curriculum leadership.”

Most of those who took the survey, 325 out of 470, identified themselves as residents with children in the schools.  Only four respondents answered he/she was a current or former member of the Clarkstown Board of Education.”

The report included answers to survey questions between December 23, 2011 and January 23, 2012.  Many people submitted individual answers to the questin, “What do you see as the single most important quality that the next Superintendent of the Clarkstown School District should possess? Why?”

Responses varied from brief to detailed.  Here are a few samples.

I feel the superintendent needs to be able to effectively communicate with staff, parents and the board of education. He/she must be able to work with all of these components while at the same time be a strong leader who can make decisions for the best interest of our students.

Awareness of the larger community which supports with a school system with a extremely high cost per student, declining enrollment and declining test scores. The commmunity can not sustain the taxes required to support this. While Clarkstown schools may have been a real estate marketing tool in the past, it is no longer the case. As the population ages, the high taxes are forcing people out -- and the cost to live here is a turn off for young families with limited resources.

I would most like to see a Superintendent who can run a district in which ALL children are challenged to meet their potential, including those that are "average" or "gifted." Currently, those children, which are MOST children, are labeled "fine" and then ignored.

I think a Superintendent should be able to stimulate academic achievement in the school system by having a positive, open relationship with both school employees and parents with a give and take on ideas and a willingness to try new things where the old way hasn't worked.

 

Related Topics: Clarkstown Central School District and School Leadership LLC

Tony T

6:18 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

I hope they look at Keller-Coogan's excessive contract with many unecessay perks espeically in these tough times!!!!

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Dzeldaz

6:57 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

I hope they look at Keller-Cogan's excessive qualifications. I haven't heard a word on why they don't want her in office. Contracts can be negotiated. Good qualities are difficult to find. Clarkstown's times are about to get tougher.

Our hard-earned tax dollars were spent to hear nothing new. Go to any school district and ask them what they want in a Superintendent. That would cost nothing. The answer might not have fancy wording, but it would be the same in essence. We spent money meant for our children on nothing. Now more is being spent on nothing. What a waste. I still have no facts on why this is all happening. Fix North.

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jjj

7:38 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Consultant firms have to prove their usefulness for what they charge. There already is a job description in place that certainly can be modified. Clarkstown has. become dated in so many ways. We need someone to tackle some of the top issues first, not everything at once. The survey should identify top issues not if leadership is a necesssary quality... of course it is! The curriculum (which is dated), facilities (specifically North), and the budget should be first. Was there ever any consideration to higher from within?

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The Terminator

11:33 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

The article states: Of the 16 groups identified as ones the consultants should meet with, no-one was listed as attending who represented: high school teachers and related staff; special education teachers and related staff; middle school teachers and related staff; senior citizens and community organizations.

Are you kidding me? WAKE UP PEOPLE! Don't you care what 4 people are doing to our district? This is unbelievable!

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ADK

11:44 am on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Sadly, Terminator this is not shocking...much of what goes on with the district is "inside baseball" stuff that the vast majority of people never see or care about. Its not because there weren't enough outreach opportunities as has been alleged, or that the "majority" is shutting people out of the process, Its because most people simply have too much on their plate just handling their daily lives. Even the most contentious election/vote only gets a fraction of registered voters. As for the staff, while the vast majority are caring, enthusiastic professionals, it is in fact a job. They either have other more pressing issues, or don't feel as if there is a direct need to be involved in the process.

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The Terminator

12:13 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

You're right, ADK. I can't point blame solely at the "majority." What I cannot stand is when people come out complaining about issues AFTER they had a chance to give input. People need to find time to participate in the super search and the budget.

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Dzeldaz

3:00 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Wake up Terminator & ADK! I have seen teachers at events at all hours. They give tirelessly of their time and energy. If you seriously think teachers were going to put their jobs on the line and speak out at a public meeting you are out of your minds. Shame on you for trying to give teachers a bad name when not deserved (how often has that been happening in this district). You are not in the real world! As to the public, this has nothing or little to do with too much on a plate. Many know there is "inside baseball" as you put it, and figure what they think and feel doesn't matter anyway, so why should they waste their time attending useless meetings when foregone decisions have been made. You are too smart to believe what you are writing. Hopefully, you are too smart to think others will believe it. Terminator, issues are so wrapped in nonsense and pushed around and reworded to sound wonderful when they are not, that many people are too frustrated to give input and they know it makes no difference. We can't get facts, we can't get true information, and we vote for people who say one thing and do another. You want the community to punish themselves further by watching the nonsense? At least by complaining there is catharsis.

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Tony T

4:11 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Wow did you drink the Cool-Aid!!!!!!

Dzeldaz

3:02 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

How do you know teachers didn't respond to the online survey? There are teachers who live in Clarkstown. How do you know there were no teachers at the community or other meetings? Was there a sign-in sheet? Nope. The article says NOT- LISTED, it doesn't say not there. BTW, many groups were in the article as not-listed!

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Dzeldaz

11:59 pm on Thursday, February 2, 2012

Your comment exposes you. I need say nothing more.

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The Terminator

12:47 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

There is a HUGE issue that is being emailed and discussed all over town. Apparently the board never gave MKC her annual review which was due by September 10th of last year. Mr. Leiter did a blog on this not long ago. It appears that NYS education law was broken and MKC's contract violated. This opens the door for a lawsuit by MKC. Why should we have to be responsible for the board's continued law breaking should she sue? And they continue to seek a new super when they cannot even complete a review and tell us what is stopping them from rehiring MKC. Can individual board members be held accountable for such a blatant disregard of the law? I hope so!

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ADK

1:04 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Wow "T", this is an oldy but a goody...not sure where in town this is being discussed, but I bet there aren't 6 people who aren't intimately involved with this subject who would even know about this, let alone discuss it. However, whether she got her review or not (and one of "your people's" petitions indicate she did), what exactly would she sue for? She received every penny due her, her contract was honored through completion, she had no monetary incentives tied to her review, where are the damages? She could seek to have her contract voided or the terms adhered to, which occurred. There seems to be some idea that she is entitled to an automatic renewal. Nonsense. In fact, she isnt "entitled" to any explanation. Her contract has been fulfilled, end of story. As for the public, you seem to be "in the know" enough to understand that the same NYS education law you reference prohibits any discussion of personnel matters of this type in public. Boards are held accountable...in the voting booth. This board was elected in a fair, lawful election. Their performance will be "accountable" in the next election. We dont take our elected officials out back and hang them because a segment of the population doesnt like a decision.

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The Terminator

1:58 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

The review you refer to is the one hastily put together early last year that was way overdue and which wasn't a review at all, more a rambling. We are talking about the one due September 10th. Two totally separate reviews. What should she sue for? Oh come on, ADK, surely you know the multiple issues she can sue for. The whole non-discussion of personnel matters is a joke. A tape recorder that her attorneys most likely told her to buy to record harassing phone calls? Seems perfectly legal to me. It's not the end of story, btw. Stay tuned as it all unfolds...

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ADK

4:22 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Actually, I don't know the multiple reasons she can sue over the issue of an allegedly overdue review because they don't exist. As discussed previously, one must be able to show financial damage from THIS PARTICULAR issue. There simply arent any. Your argument reads like a "greatest hits" album of those that have pledged undying loyalty to the cause...if one issue doesn't have merit, throw more at the wall...now we are explaining her secretly taping conversations as being authorized by her attorney??? How would you know??Talk about unsubstantiated allegations! And why is the LAW against discussing personnel matters a joke, but you are quick to assert that the board violated the LAW by not providing a timely review?
I get that you like the Super, that's your right...but stomping your feet and holding your breath til you turn blue wont keep her here.
It is time to move beyond this. Like it or not, we will have new leadership come July 1st, both in the Super's office and on the Board. We can continue this circus, or we can work to improve our schools AND our image, its totally up to you.

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

6:06 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Terminator, don't listen to ADK. He lost all credibility when he posted on the Patch on 8/11/11. Here is a snippet:

8/11/11: "a large portion of the district's legal expense (the $40K discussed) was IN RESPONSE TO the Superintendent's filing of a notice of claim with the state. In other words, she began the process of taking legal action against the district".

Problem is, this information (MKC filing notice of claim with state) was only known by the 7 board members on 8/11/11. The public first learned of it a few months later via the petitions. This means someone currently on the board shared this info with Alan.

When Alan was confronted with this on blogs his profile (Alan Katz) suddenly disappeared as did all his comments relating to, what he called at the time, MKC's "discreet extraction." This proves he is working with current board members.

By the way, the $40k he refers to was paid to an attorney who is a client of a board member's insurance company. No disclosure was ever filled out. Also, the attorney was supposed to defend the district when in fact he tried to buy out MKC. That's a misappropriation of funds which has been reported to the NYS Comptroller in Albany.

Bottom line is these people think policy and law doesn't apply to them. That is ending soon.

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The Real Mary Smith

10:30 pm on Saturday, February 4, 2012

Merlin,

This senior citizen is proud that you have silenced ADK. I do not understand why he is the mouth piece of the board majority. He has repeatedly defended these people who have destroyed our district.

I also find it ironic how he knows information before members of the public do.

Shame on ADK! Shame on the board majority!

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ADK

9:18 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Ok Merlin, lets try this again...in your "Alice in Wonderland" world I lose credibility for being CORRECT?? You blogged endlessly that I didn't know what I was talking about back then...as for how I found out...Ill try to make this as simple as possible ITS PUBLIC INFORMATION!! The suit was filed with the State of New York!! It becomes public the minute it gets filed! There is no right to privacy when you sue a PUBLIC school district! Anyone with a computer and a 3rd grade education could have found out about it in 15 minutes!!!!
By the way the Board could have taken out a full page ad in every newspaper in the country announcing that she sued the district and they would have been well within their rights!
As for the attorney's fees etc... the board has a legal obligation to defend the district!! Just as happens with virtually EVERY lawsuit settlement discussions occur...this would include buyout conversations. It is well within the scope of the assignment to explore ALL ways to and a lawsuit, INCLUDING buyouts.

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The Terminator

10:29 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

It is NOT PUBLIC INFORMATION. No lawsuit was ever filed with the State of New York. No lawsuit was ever filed anywhere. The Title VII Letter of Claim filed by Dr. Keller-Cogan was provided to the board ONLY. If I am mistaken please direct me to where I might find this suit filed with the state.

ADK

9:33 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

As for the supposed conflict of interest with a board member, once again you are quite simply wrong. Doug Katz stated PUBLICLY at a board meeting (check the tapes) discussing the extent of the "CONFLICT". The Board then voted to hire the firm. Doug should have abstained from the vote, but it wouldn't have mattered.
Merlin, (or whichever Board member, relative or imaginary cartoon character you actually are) frankly I'm disappointed...normally you concoct fresh fairy tales to rationalize your increasingly warped view of reality...when you regurgitate old nonsense, its kind of like watching a rerun of NCIS rather than a new episode...

And Mary dear, dont bother with the prayers for my soul...its hopeless.

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Truth Seeker

10:21 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Wrong. Mentioning the conflict is not sufficient. He MUST fill out a disclosure. Did he do that? Not that anyone is aware of. Again, Mr. Katz felt he didn't need to follow and policy/law. Also, the board voted to hire Doherty to DEFEND the district, not to BUY OUT MKC. Go back and read all the press related to this and you will see, ADK, that the public was misled.

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

10:34 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

In regards to Doug's conflict of interest, I believe you have spoken incorrectly yet again. The meeting you are referring to was held at SHS. It was not taped from what I recall. The law firm had ALREADY BEEN HIRED by the BOE. A New City Parent called Doug out on the apparent conflict of interest in public. Doug scrambled and fabricated some nonsense, but ADK, the law firm had already been hired and Doug Katz had NOT disclosed his connection with the lawyer until a parent (lovely woman) called Doug on his devious behavior in public.

Truth Seeker

10:10 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Bravo to Terminator & Merlin for showing everyone that the majority thumbs their collective noses at the law. This is the issue, not "save MKC." If MKC didn't receive her review by September 10th, the law was broken. Period. End of story. If she has terms in her contract that state she must have an annual review, her contract was broken by the board. Period. End of story. Can she sue? Damn right she can. Is this the foundation for a lawsuit? No, it is not. In that respect ADK is correct. The foundation can be found in the petitions currently with the Commissioner in Albany. Is this issue of not receiving a review by September 10th relevant to a potential lawsuit? Absolutely. It is further proof of the manner in which this majority operates outside of policies and laws. So what is the foundation for a lawsuit? I just copied this summary from the Facebook group page. I think it sums it up nicely:

Dr. Keller-Cogan Buyout Offer & Evaluation Timeline as Presented in the Petitions:

January 25, 2011: Verbal discussion between Board attorney, Warren Berbit, & Superintendent’s attorney, Michelle Handzel, about a buyout of Dr. Keller-Cogan’s contract. Mrs. Handzel advised Mr. Berbit on this date that Dr. Keller-Cogan planned on filing a Title VII Letter of Claim for harassment and hostile working conditions.

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Truth Seeker

10:16 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

January ??? 2011: Subsequent to the above phone call, a letter from Mr. Berbit was received by Mrs. Handzel offering terms of a contract buyout (about a discreet extraction). This was the letter that Board members Joe Malgieri & Diane Hoeneveld viewed in Warren Berbit’s office on September 26, 2011. While at Mr. Berbit’s office Mr. Malgieri & Mrs. Hoeneveld were told that they could not make a copy or take a photo of the letter. Board President Doug Katz further instructed his attorney that no notes could be taken.

January 31, 2011: Title VII Letter of Claim filed by Dr. Keller-Cogan to the Board.

February 8, 2011: A seven page "evaluation of" Dr. Keller-Cogan was delivered. The evaluation, per the terms of her contract, was due in June 2010. The period of the evaluation delivered was from 9/1/09-12/31/10.

March 11, 2011: Board meets in emergency executive session (apparently illegally convened according to Open Meetings Laws) to discuss buyout offer.

March 11, 2011: Verbal offer made to Dr. Keller-Cogan by Kevin Doherty, an attorney hired by the Board after the Title VII letter received. Offer demanded an answer by March 14, 2011. It was related to the public that Mr. Doherty was defending the district and now he was trying to buy out MKC.

* After March 14, 2011 the district had to pay $40,000 for attorney fees to Mr. Doherty and the buyout was dropped *

Carol

10:13 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I am going to repeat what I have been saying for months: Where is Dr. Keller-Cogan's evaluation? I would like to know where I can get a copy of her OBJECTIVE evaluation with clearly written goals and outcomes! If I can see a copy of this evaluation, then maybe I would have a better picture of where her weaknesses are and why they want to get rid of her. The only thing that I have seen is a short paragraph stating that she "divides the community." That is not an evaluation. That is a subjective and highly emotional summary written hastily by the Board majority. Why can't I find this OBJECTIVE evaluation? Oh.....maybe because there is none! Interesting......education law states that this information must be made public. OOPS.

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Dzeldaz

10:47 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Carol, please post the education law stating the evaluation information must be made public. Information or the entire evaluation? I have heard the BOE does not have to disclose the entire evaluation. Please help in this matter. Thank you.

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

3:30 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

http://pleiter.blogspot.com/2011_12_01_archive.html

Mr. Leiter's blog is spot on accurate: it has been confirmed by the Commissioner's office by several residents who wrote letters and who also called that the review MUST be made available to whomever requests it. I don't believe it has to be posted anywhere, however. Call the district office this week and demand a copy. Let us know what they say. Good luck.

Carol

10:49 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

And what about the letter concerning the principal at Woodglen? I can't wait for that information to be made public. Maybe they can make it into a movie! Let's see.......the principal stated under oath that the letter is true, Dr. KC stated that it is true, and it appears that several other individuals are also stating under oath that it is true. But wait! Mrs. Ehrenberg claims that they are all lying. Oh what a tangled web we weave....

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sammy

12:49 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

how do you know what the principal, mkc and ehrenberg stated? Have the investigations been made public yet?

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The Terminator

3:18 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Carol, thank you for bringing up the letter that went public which states Donna Ehrenberg threatened a non tenured principal to go after Cathy Malgieri, a teacher in Clarkstown who just happens to be Board Member Joe Malgieri's wife. And wait, don't they both support MKC? ADK, you publicly stated that whoever is found to be guilty, needs to resign from the board. Are you going to hold steadfast to your belief if Mrs. Ehrenberg is found to be guilty of threatening a non tenured principal to go after Cathy Malgieri? Whatever happened, caused a teacher to leave a building she worked in for over 12 years. Can't wait to hear the final report from the investigative lawyers we are paying close to $30K. What another waste of our taxpayer money. Let's see how much money the Majority of the Board has wasted. $40K to supposedly investigate MKC's complaint (that was apparently not filed with the state because the only person who could find that info was ADK) $30K on investigative lawyers and close to $50K for a search firm. That comes out to $120K. That's not including the lawyer fees to defend Katz and DeGaetano to defend themselves against the petitions that were filed. Can you say OMG? $120K wasted because of the BOE majority's unethical behaviors. They didn't spend it on staff, students, athletic, musical, artistic programs. OMG is an understatement.

Carol

11:12 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Fear not........it will all come out soon.

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Carol

11:56 am on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Why did so many brilliant administrators leave the district? Maybe they know something that we do not? Maybe we will know soon? Hmmmmm........

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The Real Mary Smith

12:00 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Merlin, you are the object of ADK's rath. He doesn't know how to have a civil conversation. His bullying behavior is so apparent in his posts. He has to try to put people down in order to feel superior and to try to deflect the fact that people on the BOE Majority are sharing confidential information. Love that he always accuses community members of being a BOE member, a relation to a BOE member, a friend of a BOE member. Wonder if he doesn't realize he is accusing everyone else of what HE is actually doing. I will light many candles for ADK. My heart goes out to his family who has to live with his arrogance and condescending ways. I actually feel sorry for ADK. His loose lips are helping sink his friends ships. If he really found the information about MKC's filing a complaint with the state, he would tell the WORLD how to find it. Instead, he makes condescending comments about any one with a 3rd grade education could find it. Oh ADK. As my mother taught me, "Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive." You deception is being exposed, right along with the Majority of the BOE you so strongly support. And you have the audacity to blame MKC for the division in the community. You may have fooled some of the people in this community but not for much longer ADK. I wish you no harm sir. Instead, I will pray for you. You may be an intellectually intelligent man, but sir, you are beyond mean spirited and social inappropriate = a bully.

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The Real Mary Smith

12:01 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Merlin, ADK is NOT being honest. Mr. Katz did NOT disclose his connection with the lawyer they hired last year. I did attend that meeting at SHS last year and was shocked to see the dishonesty that Mr. Katz displayed for so many in the community. I do not believe the meeting was video taped either. A lovely young woman stood up and questioned Mr. Katz about his conflict of interest because he didn't disclose his relationship with the lawyer they hired. If I am wrong, let Mr. Katz present his signed disclosure to the community. That will settle this once and for all. Just like ADK sharing HOW the rest of us can obtain the same information about MKC's complaint. ADK and Doug Katz cannot supply us with this information because it doesn't exist.

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Carol

12:15 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I was also at that meeting. You are right TRMS- Mr. Katz did not disclose his connection with the lawyer that they hired. I can't wait for all of this to be exposed. Everybody is entitled to their opinion, but they must be 100% transparent and not go above the law. THAT is what bothers me. I applaud Dr. KC if she did tape record the harassing phone conversations (that I am sure her attorney advised her to do). Is THAT the "personnel issue" that Mr. Katz keeps referring to?

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Carol

1:18 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

The investigations have not been made public. I can only guess what Dr. KC and the principal will state, and the public already knows what Mrs. Ehrenberg's position is. She does not hide it.

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woodglen dad

3:22 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

This is what you said

the principal stated under oath that the letter is true, Dr. KC stated that it is true, and it appears that several other individuals are also stating under oath that it is true. But wait! Mrs. Ehrenberg claims that they are all lying.
Who is she accusing as a liar? How could Mrs. Ehrenberg say they are lying when nothing public has been stated?

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MrOctane89

3:40 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Parent, Why dont you ask Mrs. Ehrenberg herself, or the numerous people she has told, that everyone is lying. Parent she put herself in this postion. How come your not worried about the negative light she put on the principal and the teacher? Im tired of hearing how its POOR Mrs. Ehrenberg.

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Truth Seeker

3:43 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Oh for God's sake, leave Carol alone. She's making inferences. Go ahead and report her. Better yet, go call the police....and a lawyer....and private investigator. hey, btw, whatever happened to Doug's investigation of how his business was mysteriously printed on the district calendar 3 years in a row? Doug? Did you find your scapegoat in district offices?

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MrOctane89

3:51 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

@parent.....why dont you call her and ask her. Mrs. Ehrenberg has been going around for weeks telling people that everyone is lying and out to get her.....or do you already know that to be true?

MrOctane89

3:16 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Hey ADK! It's your ole friend Mr. Octane. Please note I am NOT a BOE member, a relation to a BOE member or a friend of a BOE member. My wife and I are parents of wonderful children, one being a special needs child. ADK, many of us in the community DO follow what is going on. We DO get emails making us aware of what is happening and we DO attend meetings when possible. I know it may be hard for you to believe that the community is putting the pieces together and understands all too well what is happening to our district. We actually have intelligence, even if you don't want to believe that. So please, stop being a bullying to those of us who post on this blog. Your last few blogs are truly arrogant and condescending. Some of us may not have the expertise on computers like you, but that doesn't give you cause to belittle anyone. I agree with with some of the bloggers, if you truly had access to MKC's complaint, you would share with the rest of the community. You don't because there is no way to access that information except if you are friendly with the majority of the BOE who shares information way too freely. Many community members have heard info from all 4 on the majority, directly from their mouths. Ask them about it. They may try to deny it but it will come back to haunt them. People have been frightened of these four. Slowly but surely, people are going to start telling what they know first hand, right from the BOE Majority's mouths.

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MrOctane89

3:28 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

ADK, I spoke with my friends who attended that meeting at SHS last year. I wanted to double check my memory. Again, you have presented misinformation on this blog in your attempts to defend BOE members who have continued to do the wrong thing. Doug was called out by a female parent in the district. I don't remember the district video taping the meeting, but hopefully if anyone privately video taped that meeting, they will come forward to show you are completely off base in your defense of Mr. Katz. The law firm had already been hired by the time the woman asked him about conflict of interest. Where is his disclosure form? Wouldn't he have wanted to sign a form to show transparency? Guess not. Not surprised. He has so many conflicts of interests, just like posting his business on the school calendar for THREE YEARS in a ROW!! Tries to blame in on others, his typical M.O. Oh that's right. He was going to hire a lawyer and a private investigator to get to the bottom of him using CCSD to advertise his private business. Maybe he needs to pay the district back for advertising his company for three years? That money could be used to keep teachers and TA's in our district. But remember folks, Doug Katz is never wrong. The rest of us are always wrong. Can't make this stuff up.

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MrOctane89

3:50 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

??? Parent ??? Are you trying to tell us you are one of the BOE majority? Reread your post....it sure sounds that way! Cant make this stuff up.....

ADK

4:08 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

MrOctane89...welcome back...we can continue to debate the past, you can continue to berate me...but to what end?
The upcoming report on the alleged coercion by two board members, and the corresponding investigation into the inappropriate removal and public transmission of a personnel document will be available shortly. I propose this:

If the charges of coercion are substantiated, the offending board members should resign immediately. Not if they merely spoke to the principal, but if board members used their position to threaten a non tenured Principal into involuntarily removing an employee I will lead the charge to have them removed...in exchange...
Should it be proven that this did not occur, but rather, other board members or administrators conspired to have a non tenured principal agree to claim coercion when none existed and or said board members and/or administrators were involved in the broadcasting of confidential documents in any way YOU will call for their immediate resignation. Deal?

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MrOctane89

4:18 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

ADK, I would have no problem leading that charge if in fact that is the case. It does seem to me however, your conditions have changed. Originally if a board member was found guilty, they should resign, maybe you know something we dont? Guilt is Guilt is Guilt.....

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ADK

4:22 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Not understanding your point...how have my conditions changed? The charge was coercion, if found to have done so, they should resign.

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MrOctane89

4:23 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

ADK the charge was to find out if in fact the statement made in the letter was true. If its true its true.....

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

9:59 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

> other board members or administrators conspired to have a non tenured principal agree to claim coercion when none existed <

Oh please, There would be too many people involved in a "coercion." Is that what Mrs. Ehrenberg claims? Problem with this theory is there are MANY other people with similar stories to the principal's. There appears to be a pattern and hopefully the final report will show that. If the content of this principal letter is true, the district should demand reimbursement from the offender(s).

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Truth Seeker

1:25 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Alan, thanks for proposing your theory that "board members or administrators conspired to have a non tenured principal agree to claim coercion when none existed and or said board members and/or administrators were involved in the broadcasting of confidential documents"

Your continued desire to smear good peoples' reputations has now forced a troubling incident that occurred recently to be made public very shortly. Many have pondered if going public was the right choice. After consultation with a legal team who monitors these blogs, we feel it is the proper maneuver. I'm sure the public will be quite shocked by what they will soon learn.

Carol

4:15 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Let me state for the record again that nothing has been made public and I am not friends with anybody on the BOE. I have never even met any of them. I am simply guessing what Dr. Keller-Cogan and the principal will state based on what I have read and what I have heard in the community. As far as Mrs. Enrenberg is concerned, RUMOR has it that she believes nothing wrong has happened. That is all that I am saying. You know what this town is like- you can't even go to the bathroom without people talking. I am just tired of this nonsense and I want it all to go away. A tremendous amount of money is being spent on all of this when it should have been spent on our children. After all is said and done, I will apologize if my opinions (and they are only opinions as nothing has been made public) are wrong. I am not out to get anybody.

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Carol

4:28 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I agree with ADK. If a board member conspired to have a non-tenured principal agree to claim coercion when none existed, then they should absolutely resign. Once again I am not against anybody! I just want this mess to go away and I want what is best for our children. How sad that so much money was spent on this nonsense and we have had programs cut.

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MrOctane89

4:42 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Parent??? Where are you getting this information from? Im going to supply you the link to the article in the patch for you to review. Nowhere does it state anything you or ADK has posted. So how do you have such information, unless as I asked before, are you a member of the majority of the board?

http://newcity.patch.com/articles/clarkstown-school-board-hires-investigative-attorney-video

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MrOctane89

4:49 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Parent??? you and ADK state Coercion, and now state a non tenured principal was forced to claim coercion. Your treading in dangerous waters. Parent, you claimed slander in your previous post, is this not the same thing?

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parent

5:13 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I am not a boe member Mr Octane. Are you?

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MrOctane89

5:15 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Parent please see what i wrote above, since you have neglected to read it, this is what i wrote in the beginning.

"Please note I am NOT a BOE member, a relation to a BOE member or a friend of a BOE member. My wife and I are parents of wonderful children, one being a special needs child."

ADK

4:50 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

What "information"??? All I did was state a hypothetical based upon the fact that a confidential personnel file was pilfered and its contents broadcast via an anonymous email. This is not debatable. Only a small number of staff have access to this. Further, its obvious by the tone, manner and tense of the Principal's statement that it was written by someone else. Im just interested in hearing if the Principal believes that the written statement prepared by a superior accurately reflects her point of view, and if so, why her Union did absolutely nothing for the eight months since it was written.

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MrOctane89

4:59 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Well ADK we do agree on one thing.....why did the principals union do absolutely nothing since the 8 months it was written?

Carol

5:03 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Let me respond directly to Woodglen Dad: Perhaps I let my anger about the situation get the best of me. I apologize. I am simply making an educated guess based on what I have read and what I have heard circulating in the community. The investigation has not been made public and I am not part of an "inner circle." Based on what I have heard I will GUESS that certain individuals will state that the letter is correct and truthful. Mrs. Ehrenberg, from what I hear, believes that nothing wrong has been done on her part. I hope that when the truth comes out then one or more board members will step down, whether that be the majority or the minority. Once again, I am tired of this nonsense because the children are suffering.

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ADK

5:06 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

By the way Octane, are you at all concerned about the breach of security in central administration? I'm curious why the Superintendent hasn't said a word about this, yet called the police and sent out letters to the community the minute she thought (falsely as it turns out) that mailing lists were being used incorrectly by supporters of a Board candidate she didnt like...

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MrOctane89

5:13 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

ADK this entire situation concerns me. I can not speak for anyone but myself, so why dont you call the super and ask her yourself. Enjoy the super bowl.....

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Dzeldaz

5:50 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

It is not good to make assumptions.

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The Terminator

9:48 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

The 2 emails sent out in May endorsing Kevin Grogan while slamming Karen Kasman were NOT sent out properly. The FOIL to obtain the mailing list was done correctly. However, no one gave authorization to use this emergency contact list for political campaigning. The police dropped the investigation because all they were concerned about was the FOIL.

The source was Constant Contact and this issue has not dropped off the radar. At least one of the unions (Teachers) utilizes Constant Contact. So happy you brought this up, ADK, because people are still looking into who was behind these emails. It appears they broke election laws and that, ADK, rises to a federal offense.

ADK

5:15 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Wish I could...im a Jets fan!!

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The Real Mary Smith

10:39 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

I've been reading all the blogs and cannot believe what I am reading. I'm glad Mr. Octane posted the link to the article. ADK and Parent seem to have inside information that the rest of do not have. I don't see it written anywhere about coercion! WOW!! THANK YOU for sharing this information ADK and Parent!! Thought the investigation was to find out who "leaked" the letter and if the contents of the letter were indeed true!!! Now you both STATE (no where did either ADK or Parent write HYPOTHETICAL) BOE members and administrators COERCED a non tenured principal to say Donna Ehrenberg spoke to her about Cathy Malgieri is REALLY BIG NEWS!! Furthermore, how do you know Cathy Malgieri was INVOLUNTARILY REMOVED from Woodglen!?????? Where DO you both get your information???? Do share please!!!! This is BIG BIG NEWS!! WOW!!! THANK YOU ADK AND PARENT for enlightening the rest of the community!!!!! Guess New City Patch didn't get the inside "scoop" like you two! WOW! WOW! WOW! Hope you don't end up being accused of slander!! WOW! WOW! WOW! Unbelievable!!!

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The Terminator

10:57 pm on Sunday, February 5, 2012

Robin, as you can see your article has elicited some great debate. I highly suggest you do an article on MKC's not receiving her review by September 10th as required by state law. Not only was the law broken but I also believe the terms of her contract. Pretty dramatic when you consider how the board is hell bent on finding another superintendent when they cannot even give our current one her review in a timely manner. How are people supposed to understand why we need a new superintendent when we don't know exactly what our current one lacks?

Also, don't forget this negligence (intentional?) by the board majority, with Doug Katz as its president, has now given MKC further reason to file a lawsuit against the district. Will he be held personally accountable? If there is a precedent he should be. All education law and case law needs to be researched to see if such willful misconduct can be used to hold Mr. Katz personally liable. I'm sick and tired of these people using my money on lawyers to defend themselves. The nerve of them to not follow the laws and then simply vote yes to hire lawyers at OUR EXPENSE to pay for their law breaking! Who the hell do they think they are?

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Rachel

6:56 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

I did a little research on NYS Education Law and the Superintendent's Evaluation, and this is what I found:
1. An evaluation on a yearly basis is mandated by law.
2. An objective description of job duties/goals IS FOIL-ABLE.
3. A SUBJECTIVE analysis as to how well these goals have been met, based on OPINION is NOT FOIL-ABLE. This is to protect the individual Board members, and to also protect the Superintendent in the event that he or she wants to leave the district and find employment elsewhere. A new district is not permitted access to subjective opinions. The key words are "SUBJECTIVE OPINIONS."
3. A final rating, which is OBJECTIVE and reflects the entire Board, IS FOIL-ABLE. The final rating is written as "good," "excellent," "poor," etc.

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Dzeldaz

8:46 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Rachel, please copy and paste the section with the section numbers and the exact wording. Thank you.

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The Terminator

9:04 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Outstanding job, Rachel! Now it's time for all of us to FOIL! Let's see what they wrote about MKC which was due 9/10/11. Hmmmm. I don't think they wrote anything!

George C

9:35 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

Can't you all just give it a rest? MKC is gone. her contract is up and a new superintendent will replace her. She divided this district from day one. Her contract was EXCESSIVE and should have NEVER been renewed a year early by a lame duck board. If people have problems with the current board, then they will have a chance to vote them out. If you all are complaining so much, why don't any of you run for school board and see how easy it is.

I think one of the big issues here, and reason why she will not get renewed is the fact that she does not get along with the staff. Why would she not get the support of the teachers union? I have heard that many of the staff feel threatened by her.

She is gone. Let's move on and hopefully get a superintendent that is much better and a contract that does not give away the farm.

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The Terminator

9:52 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

She can't get the support of the Teacher's Union because its President is friends with Lorette Adams. And it's not over, George. So many laws were broken and investigations in progress that we just might see one of these board members removed or brought up on charges. Even if that doesn't occur until after the May elections, that's all that matters. Accountability knows no time frame.

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The Terminator

7:19 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Staff>threatened by MKC? Ok, and the sun is blue. Better yet, teachers feel threatened by the very union that is supposed to represent them. That's what I heard...from friends who teach in the district.

Dzeldaz

11:36 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

The problem is, George, we voted for people who said one thing and did another. Politics at its best. I don't want to move on for more of the same. I want this situation solved. I remain convinced there is so much we don't know and unless we have the facts, we are in for more of the same. Facts and laws and how they interact, that's what I'm looking for, and then we can decide who we want in what seat.

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Sam

11:50 am on Monday, February 6, 2012

This is what happens when you elect people who have crazy nasty agendas and who do not have a clue about anything to do with education. Yeah, I voted for them too. I was sold a bill of goods about saving money and taxes. Boy was I wrong. Kick these guys, to the curb. Donna is out of her mind . Doug is out of his league. Phil is out of control. One way or another they are off the board at the next election.

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Sabina DeGaetano

12:35 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

sam

where am i out of control?

PHILLIP DEGAETANO

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

6:25 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Actually, Phil chastised Doug at the last board meeting. Doug tried to dismiss Robert Freeman's lecture as "ideas" and Phil reminded him that they were more than "ideas." So give Phil a break because he did the right thing IN PUBLIC. Maybe Phil is coming to his senses and realizes the other 3 are quite different people than he is. Phil made a helluva better president than Doug, that much is clear at this point. By the way, who made Katz King of Clarkstown anyway? Time for a dethroning. May can't come soon enough.

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Sam

9:48 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Where are you out of control - like all this business with the superintendent. What is the point of all that? I thought you would cut my taxes and find a way to repair the schools. That is why I voted for you and the other two. What a mess we have now. Almost three years and what have you done. Nothing.

ADK

1:53 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Truth Seeker, not sure what you're talking about.. smearing good people's names?...well please show me where THAT occurred. I proposed another plausible possibility as to what occurred. It seems that everyone on "your side" has already decided that the two board members are guilty and some have proposed rather severe punishment. You dont seem terribly concerned when MY good name is smeared by other bloggers, nor have I heard your outrage at the harassing letters, phone calls etc that some Board members have been forced to endure.
As for "legal teams" monitoring the blogs...I would tread lightly...freedom of speech and the right to anonymity are a hallmark of this process. Im quite certain that many on the board would be embarrassed (or worse) should they be compelled to state their true identity.

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

7:32 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

ADK, can you tell us what is in these "harassing letters"? You know, you have proposed an alternate theory on the principal's letter and who coerced who...so I will propose my own alternate theory on the "harassing letters": they were self-addressed to create the impression of harassment. Why would I suggest that? I guess it was the bb gun story I read about. Who would fire a bb gun at someone's basement window at 2am? If you truly are trying to make a point, wouldn't something a little more dramatic be better? Was the offending bb ever found that left the "indentation" in the window? Was this, in fact, a fabricated story to elicit further sympathy? Was a false police report filed? Now, keep in mind, this is just my OPINION. :)

MrOctane89

3:26 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

ADK said toTruth Seeker: "not sure what you're talking about.. smearing good people's names?...well please show me where THAT occurred. I proposed another plausible possibility as to what occurred. " @ADK: Well, if you didn't remove your post that discussed "coercion" by administrators and BOE members of a non tenured principal, you'd know exactly what Truthseeker was referring too. Parent removed his/her post about "coercion" as well. Same ole behavior ADK. You post confidential information on the BLOGS and then conveniently remove the post. You have been doing that for months. Your behavior continues to validate the ole saying that a "leopard never changes its spots".

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ADK

4:00 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Ill try one more time...I didnt remove anything...my posts that use the word coercion have been plentiful and all have to do with my OPINION that there MAY be another plausible explanation. I get that you dont think so...Im also on record multiple times saying that ANYONE found to be complicit relative to the alleged coercion and removal and distribution of a confidential personnel document involving the Woodglen Principal should resign...and yet i cant get YOU to make the same statement...odd for someone as objective and measured as you. While on the subject of fairness, care to condemn the lowlife cowards that continue to harass Donna and her family Mroctane89? Or do you think she deserves to be harassed in her home and place of business and have her children's names used as a blog name here by some lowlife?...
In any event...the attorney's findings should be available soon...so we'll see what actually happened...look forward to your next nasty post about me (made in anonymity of course!!) Spare me the diatribe about how its your right to post whatever half truths and insults pop into your head under a fake name...its gutless.

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The Terminator

6:09 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

"continue to harass Donna and her family"

The irony in this statement will be very public soon

But more immediate news! The board video from 1/30/12 is up on CCSD! Here's the beginning segment, enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxar7ZzHlVc

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Truth Seeker

8:06 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

Wow! What a great video! Classic Katz! He threatens to remove Malgieri, can't answer anything without the lawyer's advice, is forced into executive session (even by Ehrenberg) and then comes out and has to add the agenda item back on that he removed because he thinks he's the president and can do whatever he chooses. WRONG! NAILED! Love it! Can we expect more??? Please!!!

Rachel

6:45 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

I was thrilled to hear Phil put Mr. Katz in his place at the last BOE meeting. Thanks Phil for doing the right thing!

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Sabina DeGaetano

10:20 pm on Monday, February 6, 2012

sam

i was president of the board for two years and i am very proud that we had two years of low tax increases and the board voted 7-0 two years on the budget also we also have a large amount in reserves thanks to all our unions and a strong board i respect your opinion on the super. lastly i can't believe that you voted for me on the issue of fixing our schools although they do need work i did not support the 187 million dollar bond

thankyou sam

phillip degaetano

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The Terminator

8:26 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Phil

I give you credit for posting out here so I won't go too hard on you. However, I don't think you truly respect the blogger's opinion on the super. Google "Clarkstown School District" or "Clarkstown School Board." Watch what comes up. Phil, we are not viewed anymore as the great district we once were. All because of this sad situation with the super. No one believes anything about "personnel matters" anymore. It's a political vendetta, plain and simple. It's also union driven, as you know. Who is suffering? The kids. Your name will forever be associated with this mess and it will always be attached to Katz, Ehrenberg & Grogan. Not esteemed company, imo. But thanks for writing because the other 3 would never come out here and debate because they're cowards and will always be remembered as such.

Tony T

8:43 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

What ever happen to Phil, Robert and Alison seem that they have become mere wall flowers in this discussion if even that?

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Phil Leiter

6:01 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Oh, I'm still here and keeping up on things. My goal was to shed light on what's been happening in the CCSD and encourage people to talk about it. They clearly are, so that's great. I'm sure I'll have something to add at some point.

Dzeldaz

9:11 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

I am not necessarily a Phil fan after witnessing the throwing of a text book and an impulsive budget change foisted on the BOE. His hyper-responses concerned me as he was voting about my tax dollars. Budgets are serious, taking time and thought. They aren't changed on the spot with disregard as to their implications and because some parents were more outspoken than others. That is not control. Throwing a text book is out of control. What kind of model is that to our children? An antic like that in school surely would garner a consequence. Those two very public incidents stand out. I notice he has been more subdued at meetings lately and will not conjecture here as to why. That said, I work on facts. Sam, please be specific as to what you feel Phil has done that is out of control, so we as a community may understand.

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Sabina DeGaetano

10:17 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

DZELDAZ

THROWING THE BOOK WAS WRONG AND I WILL NOT INSULT THE DISTRICT IN TRYING TO DEFEND IT

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Dzeldaz

10:46 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Thank you, Phil. Consider that issue dropped. My hope is that more issues the public has and is specific about may be addressed by the BOE so they, too,may be settled in the appropriate environment. (Is there a reason you are writing in caps? Online, all caps is generally considered yelling. I don't want to assume, so I am asking.)

There is a rumor that has been circulating for quite a while that you want to run for public office. Is that true or really a rumor? Thanks.

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Merlin The Mighty Wizard

11:10 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Amen Phil. Your honesty is much appreciated.

Dzeldaz

9:28 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Looks to me like someone doesn't like the direction of the posts and may be trying to change the subject by baiting others who are not expressing opinions they are not obliged to express.

Take a moment to check out the nature of this person's last comment.

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Sabina DeGaetano

10:59 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

dzeldaz

i did run for public office the school board rumors are just that i am very active with my party who knows but if i did i would not hide it as far as the capital letters i hit the cap lock button by mistake i am not angry to tell you the truth i am really feeling good

phillip degaetano

The Terminator

11:34 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

More video from the 1/30/12 meeting. Mr. Katz & Mr. Berbit, where is that complaint? Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3GMQIodKwA

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Sabina DeGaetano

11:46 am on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

this message is to everyone on the blogs and in the district

we have 35 families who are consider homeless in our district bob k and cheryl s have
done a wonderful job getting this going i ask everyone to make a donation of food or
gift cards to this cause you can drop off the food at all district schools and central i think you should drop off gift cards to central

thankyou
phillip degaetano

The Terminator

12:14 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Still more video from 1/30/12 meeting. Phil correcting Doug. Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vpOgsHEnM0

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MrOctane89

12:24 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

@Phil. I like what you are writing Phil. Like that you are able to admit to an honest mistake. We all make mistakes. Takes a honest and together person to publicly admit to mistakes. Those other three won't even admit they do anything wrong. That is scary and unhealthy. Get away from them Phil and fast!

Phil, I hope you take time to relook at your stance in regards to MKC. Stop those other three from wasting our tax dollars. Stop this inane search for another superintendent. Use the monies they want to keep spending to find a new superintendent when we have a good one. Use that money to help the kids learn to read! Do the right thing here. Stop wasting our tax dollars on lawyers and search firms. You can turn the district around Phil. Get out there and talk with people you haven't talked with before. Never know what they have to say unless you talk with them. Get out of the negativity Phil. Get away from those other three and FAST!

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The Real Mary Smith

4:01 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Phil,

It is time for you to show true leadership and rid yourself of the board majority. I am begging you as a retired person who lives on a limited income to stop this insanity and support Dr. Keller-Cogan.

The district has spent $50,000+ on this superintendent search and it is obvious with the turn out of the community that the public does not want a new superintendent.

Phil, do the right thing and support Dr. Keller-Cogan!

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Sabina DeGaetano

4:09 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

mary

hope all is well please come to the next board meeting and say hello i would like to meet you

phillip degaetano

The Real Mary Smith

6:11 pm on Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Mr. DeGaetano,

Thank you very much for your kind invitation. Unfortunately, I am no longer driving at night so I watch the meeting on my computer.

But, believe me, If I can get there, I will introduce myself to you.

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