Hudson Valley Democrats Score High on Environment
Rep. Nan Hayworth is the fifth highest scoring Republican member of Congress, according to the environmental watchdog organization.
Democratic members of Congress from the Hudson Valley had high marks on the annual New York League of Conservation Voters 2011 National Environmental Scorecard release Tuesday.
Both Democratic senators—Charles Schumer and Kirsten Gillibrand—had top scores of 100, said Marcia Bystryn, president of the league.
"New Yorkers care a lot about our environment," she said. "It should not come as a surprise both of our senators had perfect scores in 2011."
In the House, Rep. Nita Lowey, D-Harrison, achieved a 97, while Rep. Eliot Engel, D-Bronx, scored a 94.
On the Republican side of the aisle in the House, Rep. Nan Hayworth, R-Mount Kisco, was given a grade of 43.
"While her score is nothing to write home about," Bystryn said, "her score in the fifth highest in the Republican House."
Alex Taurel, the league's legislative representative, said the league talks to Hayworth all the time about environmental issues.
"We are going to keep working with her," he said.
Taurel said first session of the 112th Congress was the most anti-environment in the nation's history.
"It's a sad testament to the radical nature of the first session," he said.
The 2011 Scorecard includes 11 Senate and a record 35 House votes on issues ranging from protecting public health to clean energy and land and wildlife conservation.
Taurel said that one of the good stories from 2011 is that a lot of the anti-environment legislation that made it out of the House was not taken up by the Democratic-controlled Senate or enough votes were not obtained to pass.
New York's average scores were 100 for the Senate and 72 for the House of Representatives, compared with national averages of 55 for the Senate and 45 for the House.
Only Connecticut, Delware, Hawaii, Maine, Massachusetts, Maryland, Rhode Island, Oregon and Vermont had better House averages than New York.
The full 2011 National Environmental Scorecard can be found here.
Issy
6:08 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
It does not bode well for our children's future if Republicans gain full control of the government.
Fly on the Wall
9:09 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Oh yea... and the Billions of dollars our president GIVES third world countries is good for our children's future. Adding another Trillion dollars to our deficit is good for our children's future.
Scott Walters
7:56 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Of course, since we are so much in favor of undrinkable water, unbreathable air and untillable soil...LOL
Amusing that you need to consider the source. Just note that in 201 the EPA wrote more regulations than in any other year of their history and it would take an average person working 40 hours a week over 10 months to read those new regulations. No wonder businesses aren't thriving overall in this economy.
Don Pachner
7:58 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Republicans (including Nan Hayworth) seem to believe that industry can regulate itself, and they promote dismantling the Environmental Protection Agency along with rolling back the Clean Water Act. I don't believe that New Yorkers will buy this as a solution to our modern day problems.
Watchdog
9:11 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
You are probably correct. New Yorkers will orobly not buy it as a solution although I think you are using broad brush strokes to criticize your electedCongresswoman because she is a woman and a Republican.
Don Pachner
11:04 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, If you don't agree with my observations, perhaps you have had a conservation or correspondence with Nan Hayworth or other republican legislators that would show this to be untrue? Please share this with us. As far as I know, this is a central tenet of the current Republican platform and, to the best of my knowledge, Nan Hayworth is on the record agreeing with it..
Watchdog
8:00 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Surprise, surprise, a story in Patch written by an admitted liberal citing information arranged and prepared by a left wing liberal organization that put the Republican Party in a bad light without the slightest attempt by the reporter to obtain views of the other side despite his profile indicating that he is fair and balanced. This is a disgraceful piece of biased one- sided reporting.
Martin Smolin
8:02 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
With the deceptive lead line that Nan Hayworth is the fifth highest scoring Republican representative on environmental issues, the author of this article conceals the fact that Nan Hayworth is really as anti-environment, as she is anti-human rights. She continually tries to deceive her constituents regarding her voting record, which is abysmal.
This is bad journalism.
Watchdog
9:08 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Be careful, Dan will criticize you for using broad brush strokes.
Don Pachner
8:04 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, why don't you talk to the facts of the matter rather than the commonly bandied about partisan rhetoric. Can you give a reason that these votes against what LCV considers environmentally positive legislation were actually good for the environment? You are obvioiusly a passionatje political animal, but please confine your remarks to the facts so that the discourse can be objective.
Watchdog
8:57 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
My comments were about the article. If it was fairly written you would not have to ask that question.
Don Pachner
11:01 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, I think the article was objective and clear. It does not interject the author's opinion or views on the subject. I feel you are concerned that the author would give credence to a report from The League of Conservation Voters, at least that is what I am reading between your lines. I think that should be left to the reader, and the organization's credence is the sum of its work and information. I always take these with a grain of salt. Every organization has their own bias of some sort, and over time I try to filter that out when I read about them in the media. That does not speak to the objectivity of the article, which seems to me to be unbiased.
Don Pachner
8:06 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Scott, I am a small business owner and do not find enviornmental regulations onerouis. Can you give us some concrete examples of what you are referring to rather than broad brush strokes about the number of regulations covering all industry and business countrywide?
Watchdog
9:06 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I notice you did not criticize the author for using broad brush strokes to criticize the Republican Party.
Francis T McVetty
9:35 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Dan, what business are you in that these new EPA regulations don't effect you?
Don Pachner
10:54 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I am an insurance broker (and am licensed in all 50 states). I do hear grumbling from some clients about too many government regulations, but I am not personally saddled with them in my line of work.
Don Pachner
10:57 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, The author of this articles is not painting anyone with broad brush strokes. Don't shoot the messenger! The author is reporting on a recent release from League of Conservation Voters regarding their take on legislator voting records (I don't always agree with their criteria, but it can be seen as an indicator of environmental voting records on issues that the League of Environmental Voters is conderned about and tabulates in their way)
Watchdog
3:51 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Don, please, you are a smart man but surely you can see that the articles written by a unabashed liberal ....see his profile...about information compiledby a left wing Environmental group without any attempt to present opposing views. The immigration group www.numbersusa.com also have scorecards for politicians and Shumer, Engel and the rest all GRT scores of "F". Do you think we will ever see an article on that? BTW I am a consultant for banks and bsinesses I the financial industry and I can tell you that they are overwhelmed with regulators and audits.
Don Pachner
4:08 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, I am not swayed by intimation of political tendencies. If you object to the LCV, then come out and say it. Again, don't shoot the messenger! The article itself is unbiased reporting. You are concerned that an anti-immigration group's report card is not mentioned in the same article as environmental voting records...hey, write your own article about immigration (and prepare for the flames that will attack the apparent isolationist, unsympathetic and narrow point of view that you seem to promote.) As for burdensome regulations, I know that public financial institutions were socked by SOX and some financial institutions by the Spitzer investigations, but smaller financial-related businesses were not affected by this. However, this is unrelated to environmental voting records.
Bob Ogden
9:54 am on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
I've read the article and it's not accusing anyone of anything. It is simply reporting on a rating that was given to legislators based upon their voting record. As to Nan Hayworth, she will probably be among the ranks of the unemployed in January because her voting record is abysmal and now that we've seen that the Tea Party movement is dead, it's time for a return to sanity.
Watchdog
4:04 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Why am I not surprised thatyouwould disagree? How about a article onthe ratings given politicians by www.numbersusa.com, an immigration group? BTW PP, Patch does not employ a single conservative reporter. That being the case do you think you will ever see unbiased reporting on a subject like the environment?
Don Pachner
4:15 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, I am baffled...why you are coming here for your news, if you don't like the reporting!?? Personally, I find it informative, even if I don't always agree with the facts.
Watchdog
4:49 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
, I read many publications since I am in several states during the year. I do not live in a neighborhood bastion of liberal thinkers who for the most part arenot affected by the policies they espouse for others such as Low income housing, (look at what the phonies in Rye are doing to comply), abortion (90%Planned Parenthood abortions are on minorities) and illegal immigration (interesting that neighboring Portchester is the illegal immigration capital while Rye has none?
Scott Walters
3:25 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
@ Don...the more regulations equals the more insurance...and of course the biggest insurance bondoggle of them all...Obamacare and the regulation that Catholic and other religious entities must provide for contraceptives in the face of their belief systems..."I don't see much problems..."...you are too funny...
Don Pachner
3:50 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Scott, You are correct that more regulation often requires more insurance in some respects, although in my line of business this is a much more complex issue, and also varies with the region of the country, as well as with the industry segment. Insurance in general cannot be purchased if it is at odds with public policy (for example, one cannot obtain insurance against the future possibility of a prosecutable criminal act) but finciall responsibility laws do set up a requirement for a minimum amount of automobile liability insurance for vehicle owners. Are you opposed to this, for example? Would you like to abolish the requirement that all vehicle owners maintain a certain amount of liability insurance on their vehicles? This is perhaps the most common example of government regulation that affects more residents in imposing a regulatory burden than any other.
Scott Walters
3:27 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
@ Pete...the Taxed Enough ALready Party is not dead...we are merely not the 'sheeple' that union worked and others are. When it is time to unite, we will not untie.
Bob Ogden
4:24 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
You do not inherit the earth from your ancestors. You borrow it from your children.
The conservatives of yesteryear were as concerned as the liberals with the air, water and soil. When did all that change? Remember when you pollute the air, you'll be breathing it too. Government regulations exists for a reason. The reason is that we cannot trust all corporations to do the right thing. Look around at the Superfund Sites. They were all created by corporations. Look at the Hudson River. We may never be able to remove the PCB's from the sediment. They weren't put there by liberals or conservatives, they were put there by unregulated corporations.
Watchdog
4:37 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Where did you get the idea that Conservatives did not are about the environment?
Don Pachner
4:47 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, Please read what you are criticizing before you write about it. Peekskill Pete said "The conservatives of yesteryear were as concerned as the liberals with the air, water and soil." "They [PCBs] weren't put there by liberals or conservatives, they were put there by unregulated corporations."
Watchdog
4:53 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Don, take a nap. I am really happy my broker is not as dense as you appear to be. READ MY COMMENT AGAIN!
Watchdog
4:56 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
CLUE:He also said, "When did that change?",
Don Pachner
4:59 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, I will definitelyi not respond again to any of your comments in this thread. I feel like a teacher trying to correct a slow student's paper. You stated "Where did you get the idea that Conservatives did not [c]are about the environment?" Peekskill Pete said no such thing. He said that conservatives CARED about the environment. I'm glad you have a broker that is on your wavelength and does a good job representing you...I need clear communication with my clients to represent them and advocate for them..
Bob Ogden
5:18 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Don,
He's a lost cause.
Watchdog
7:36 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Look clueless, he said Conservatives of YESTERYEAR ....,,,,,,,WHEN DID THAT CHANGE.? MEANING. Conservatives of TODAY do not care.....
OTHERWISE DON, why say Conservatives of YESTERYEAR. GET IT DON?
Watchdog
7:41 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
GGood Don, the problem all you libs have is that you hang with each other with no one to offer an opposing view. U would still like to know why all the illegals live in neiboring Portchedter and none in Rye among all the caring folks? FACE IT! FAKE, PHONY FRAUDS.
Don Bartolo
7:47 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Watchdog, So can we put you down as a defender of the environment? Whether you like Pete or not, wouldn't it be great if we could all work together on this one.
Watchdog
8:07 pm on Wednesday, February 8, 2012
Absolutely. Why would you think otherwise? Conservatives I know have always supported sensible environmental policies.
Issy
5:56 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
LOL Can you name an environmental policy championed by conservatives? Ever since Reagan ripped the solar panels of the White House conservatives have fought any policy that helps the environment: National Forest Logging, Arctic oil drilling, tax breaks for hummers no CAFE standards etc.
Despite the fact that the earth is warming they refuse to do anything that might slow it, just because Al Gore might get rich.
Francis T McVetty
8:17 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Issy, just a few things you got wrong. No CAFE standards? Do you follow the automobile business at all. There are higher standards than the auto companies can attain. Every increase in the cafe standard makes the automobile more costly. Does that effect the rich. NO. Drilling in the Arctic? Where are we doing that in Anwar, the desolate area of Alaska ? National forests logging? Do you remember the forest fires?. They were caused by NOT clearing the old dead trees. Tax breaks for hummers as opposed to tax breaks for electric cars that aren't selling?
Lastly I love this one [Despite the fact that the earth is warming they refuse to do anything that might slow it, just because Al Gore might get rich.] MIGHT get rich, are you kidding? The earth would be warming or cooling WITHOUT humans inhabiting it. We only have a very small part in that. You had better push through a bill in congress to condemn the sun and the volcanoes, for they are the main cause of warming/cooling, whatever flavor of the day.
Issy
9:32 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Nonsense, European cars get approx. 50% better gas mileage on the same car that sells in the US. CAFE standards have not kept up with technology.
Clearing old trees in a managed approach is one thing, raping forests for short term profit another.
History has shown that the earth's climate is very susceptible to long term change due to inconspicuous events. Our 'small part' is having dire consequence, especially on the oceans. FYI Volcanic activity is slower as the earth cools and sun activity has remained constant so neither are playing a part in our current warming.
Bob Ogden
10:07 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Climate change caused by the sun and volcanoes? Come on! Not even a room full of billionaires can believe that.
Bob Ogden
8:34 am on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Issy,
One way or another we will soon find out as the hydro-fracking controversy comes to New York. It seems we've already drawn up party lines on this one, but, I urge everyone to study up on Dimock, Pa before they say this practice is harmless to the environment. Hopefully Watchdog will support banning this practice here as a conservation issue.
Francis T McVetty
12:27 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Peekskill Pete, this planets environment has been changing many, many years before the advent of humans. It cools it warms all due to NATURAL causes that include the sun, meteor strikes and even volcanoes. Even the 99% can figure that out.
Kevin
12:37 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Francis, you are right about the climate naturally changing. But if you actually believe that a volcanic eruption can influence global climate, how can say with absolute certainty that the burning of fossil fuels and deforestation since the industrial revolution has had NO impact on climate?
Bob Ogden
1:13 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Francis, I'm not doubting that natural causes can change the climate without mans help. But man can also change the climate and that is a fact that all legitimate scientists agree on. When it comes to science, I'd prefer to listen to scientists and not politicians.
Francis T McVetty
1:58 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Peekskill Pete, "all legitimate scientists agree on" ? So the ones that don't are illegitimate? Says who, you? The figures were FUDGED, haven't you been reading the papers?
Francis T McVetty
1:18 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Kevin, I didn't say that volcanoes were the only influence on climate change. The United Sates of America has been a leader when it comes to a clean environment. You can't say that about the majority of the rest of the world. Why is it always us that is blamed for the world pollution problem? Ever been to China, India, Mexico, to name a few. Let the rest of the world clean up its act and then criticize us.
Kevin
1:42 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Ahh, I see. Thank you for clarifying Francis. So, it could be a combination of things that can change climate. How many ways do people influence climate? Hmmm...
And if the United States has been a leader when it comes to a clean environment, it has been no thanks to conservatives and big business, who fight it every step of the way, and have shipped our jobs overseas for cheap labor and lax environmental regs. Now you want those countries to clean up their act? Well that's just not good for business, is it?
Francis T McVetty
1:55 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Kevin, if the US tax code made it favorable to do businesses here, then companies would not have to go off shores to manufacturer their products!
Again if you missed it THE CLIMATE HAS BEEN CHANGING FOR HUNDREDS AND MULLIONS OF YEARS BEFORE THE APPEARANCE OF MAN. !!! Sorry about shouting, but you seem to have a hearing problem.
Kevin
2:24 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Francis, I didn't miss it. I understand it fairly well. My initial comment, if YOU missed it, said "you are right about the climate naturally changing." That is a fact that nobody denies. However, that does not mean that humans couldn't possibly influence the environment.
Taxes are higher here because Americans demand and deserve a better place to live than third world countries. Those other countries are a hell of a bargain because they are desperate for work, business and money. We worked hard to build a great country, and it doesn't come cheap or easy.
Francis T McVetty
2:39 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Kevin, then why would the administration want to take away a driving force in economic development and want to increase in the excise tax? Do you think that will spur the economy on to being bigger and better for all?
I also never said that humans didn't have any part in global warming/cooling. I said only a very small part.
Kevin
2:57 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
The whole system is flawed. We need resposible businesses. Businesses that care about where they are from. Our infrastructure is crumbling. This country is falling farther and farther behind. The private sector isn't doing jack. They complain and complain, and when they get a break, a bailout, and profits soar, they keep it all. Don't even try to give me some trickle down nonsense.
I am happy that you have recognized that humans can in fact change the climate. Regarding your comment about fudging the numbers, I thought all of those scientists were cleared of any wrong doing. I don't know what papers you're reading. Same thing with ACORN. All cleared. Probably not talked about in great detail on Hannity or O'Reilly. People were up in flames when a pimp walks in to an ACORN facility trying to scam the system. When we find out it was all a sham, it's crickets with you people.
Francis T McVetty
6:12 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Kevin, you thought wrong.
Kevin
10:47 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Crickets.
Kevin
7:18 pm on Thursday, February 9, 2012
Ok. Sorry Francis. I am confused, and I am hoping you can help me. I remember seeing stories like this (taken from "your" side): http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2010/04/14/climate-scientists-united-nations-misinterpret-data/.
Francis T McVetty
12:25 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Kevin, did you see this one?http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/09/himalayan-glaciers-have-lost-no-ice-in-past-10-years-new-study-reveals/?intcmp=trending
Kevin
12:52 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
I didn't know, and it doesn't sway me at all. I am happy to see the scientists correct themselves on this isolated matter. This was a short term study of a specific region. Doesn't change my views on global issues, long term.
Try again though. It's entertaining. BTW, so these are the same people who you didn't believe before. Now you do? Which is it? Can you admit that you were unaware about the scientists cleared of wrong doing, because you let that slip off the radar.
http://www.csmonitor.com/Science/2012/0209/Study-Himalayan-glaciers-melting-more-slowly-than-thought-but-seas-are-still-rising
http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2012/feb/10/glacier-data-climate-change-debate?intcmp=239
Issy
6:40 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Kevin, there is no "your" side. CO2 levels are rising, the earth is warming, marine life is being decimated from increased acidity, sea levels rising and the glaciers and ice caps are melting: These are indisputable facts supported by 97% of climate scientists, every bona fide university and research facility and every scientific journal.
The "your" side would rather defame all the above, misrepresent and distort facts, listen to ignorant lying political pundits and quote reports from Exxon Mobile, than face reality. The "your" side refuse to discuss the science instead they fiddle like Nero while the earth 'burns'.
Francis T McVetty
12:23 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Issy, you are wrong on the glaciers melting, maybe you are wrong on the rest of it? http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2012/02/09/himalayan-glaciers-have-lost-no-ice-in-past-10-years-new-study-reveals/?intcmp=trending
Don Pachner
12:47 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Francis, Please try to read the entire article before jumping to conclusions. I will post the relevant part below. Additionally, you should note, if you give science any credence at all, that very cold air cannot carry much moisture (when you see condensation inside a cold window pain, that is the moisture from the warm room where it hits the cold barrier.) Consequently, snow accumulation on top of normally extremely cold high altitutde glaciers increases with the warmer air temperatures that global warming brings. Of course, that may very well change as the climate warms beyond current temperature levels. This may account for some of the dynamic in connection with the mass measurements mentioned in the article; however, you should note that the glaciers themselves in most parts of the world are receding at an astounding pace, and photographic evidence of this can easily be found on the internet. The additional comments in the article you cite in next posting:
Don Pachner
12:48 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Francis,, If you read the full article, you will note that 150 tons of glacial ice are melting annually:
Bamber was quick to caution that the new study doesn’t alter his view that the climate is changing, and rapidly.
“This new study doesn't change our view of the risks and threats from climate change,” he said in an online chat at the Guardian. “What it does do is improve our knowledge of the recent behavior of one part of the climate system.”
Indeed, Wahr’s study clearly notes that lower-altitude glaciers and ice caps are melting, to the tune of about 150 billion tons of ice annually, which the study predicts could lead to an overall rise in sea levels. He concluded that the higher altitude and therefore colder Himalayan peaks may be temporarily impervious to factors causing melting.
"One possible explanation is that previous estimates were based on measurements taken primarily from some of the lower, more accessible glaciers in Asia and were extrapolated to infer the behavior of higher glaciers. But unlike the lower glaciers, many of the high glaciers would still be too cold to lose mass even in the presence of atmospheric warming," Wahr said.
Don Pachner
12:49 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Francis, Sorry for my typo...if you read the article you cite, 150 BILLION tons of glacial ice are melting annually.
Scott Walters
8:02 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Let's stop the shenanigans. CO2 is NOT a pollutant. Humans do NOT cause global warming, or else HUMANS would have CAUSED the last BIG WARM UP of 40,000 years ago.
Krakatoa in 1883, Alaska in 1912 and Iceland in 1946...those three volcanic reruptions put more stuff into the air than HUMANS have form be beginning of humanity until 2100...and wait,...it's only 2012....
I would say that greater environmental cleanliness has caused warming. How so? Look at when I went to HS...in the late 1970's right after lead was taken out of gasoline. The Hudson froze over three of the four ewinters, and our air was of the worst quality insofar os pollutants, etc. went.
Stop the insanity...NOW!
Kevin
8:53 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Scott, CO2 is a green house gas. Period. I cannot believe you are comparing the impact humans are having on the planet now, versus 40,000 years ago. CO2 allows energy to enter our atmosphere and keeps in the generated heat. The eruptions from volcanoes, including ash, sulfur dioxide and other elements, actually blocks the suns rays and leads to cooling of the planet.
I've heard you bring up your nostalgic observation of how the Hudson froze in the 70's. That's a cute story, but your assertion that creating a cleaner environment created negative environmental impacts is just flat out wrong. Your story really makes little sense and isn't supported by any scientific facts. Shenanigans. Insanity.
Bob Ogden
9:10 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Scott, What color is the sky in your world? Clean air is causing global warming? Maybe you should be on Fox because even they haven't come up with this one. CO2 causes what is commonly known as the Greenhouse Effect. That is that it lets the rays of the sun in but keeps the heat from dissipating and thus raises the temperature. This isn't new science or some liberal plot, this is science that was taught to me in the 8th Grade and I'm 64 years old. As to lead being taken out of gasoline that was done because lead is a bad thing. It causes brain damage, birth defects and a host of other problems.
Look what's going on around you and figure it out. I guarantee you we are not holding secret meetings to destroy big corporations but I fear they're having meetings that are destroying our world.
Watchdog
11:08 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
When the sun comes out it is hotter than when the sun does not come out. I have lived a hood number of years and have not noticed any significant patterns in the changes of weather. Stores sell shorts and bathing suits in the summer and warm coats In the winter. Most of the CO2 is caused by exhaling so if you and your friends want to lower your carbon footprint whatever that cute term means, you can all hold your collective breaths for significant periods of time.
Kevin
11:17 am on Friday, February 10, 2012
Good news everybody!! Based on the extensive scientific research of Watchdog, who hasn't noticed any significant patterns in the changes of weather, based on decades of data collection and analysis I'm sure, and Scott Walters who saw the Hudson freeze in the 70's, there is nothing to worry about!! Yaaaaay!!
Francis T McVetty
12:32 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
The only thing to worry about is Al Gore's lies. He has made a large fortune with his "power point presentation" An Inconvenient Truth. Men while while he tells us that we are killing the planet, he is off in his jet or living in a house that uses more than ten times the energy of the average house hold. All this is, is a plan to level the playing field. Instead of raising the the bar, he is lowering our standards to meet the low setting on that bar. This is typical LIBERAL BS. Why is it that they are out to punish the achievers? You know those small companies that employee all those workers. He and those liberals won't be happy till we are driving around in golf carts and reading by candlelight.
Bob Ogden
4:23 pm on Friday, February 10, 2012
Watchdog/Francis/Scott,
Every morning when I get up and walk into my tile bathroom, I notice that my feet are cold. This therefore proves that there is no global warming because if there was I'm sure my bathroom tiles would be hot and not cold which is what they were forty years ago when I did the same thing.
Stay in your world. We will deal with the reasonable people who believe in science.