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Chick fil-A: This Debate is Bigger Than a Chicken Sandwich

Why this Rockland County resident is boycotting Chick-fil-A. And why you should too.

Here’s my addition to the chorus of bloggers writing about Chick-fil-A.

For me this is personal and I think it should be for you too.

I grew up in this community, went to elementary, middle school and high school in Rockland County. I played soccer, Just for Fun Little League, was a cub scout and did well in school. I received first Holy Communion, and Confirmation at St. Gregory’s Church in Garnerville.

I grew up with loving and caring working class parents, who instilled in me a strong work ethic and the importance of treating others with dignity and respect. I graduated from undergrad cum laude and am currently finishing a graduate degree in Public Administration. I work at a nonprofit and I am still very much involved in our community. And I am an out 27 year old gay man.  

I came out towards the end of middle school, as I entered high school. I remember being called every derogatory name for a gay person by peers. I remember fearing going into the locker room to change for physical education because I was scared I would be harmed, and I remember going home sick to use the bathroom because I didn’t feel safe in the bathroom either.

I remember people screaming hateful comments at me from cars as I walked home from school. I remember the countless nights I spent crying. I remember receiving death threats stating that I would be killed because “gays and minorities are ruining the country” (that was a direct quote from a threat I received). I remember when Matthew Shepard was murdered and I thinking that could be me. I remember feeling angry, helpless and lost.  

I must say, I am one of the lucky ones because many LGBT youth don’t make it through school. As we know tragically, the suicide rate for LGBT youth is 4 times that of our heterosexual peers. I say I’m lucky because I had a wonderful support network of friends, family and community leaders.

I was able to take the pain and oppression that I was feeling and translate that into action.  Since high school, I have not stopped working for equality and justice because I know I do not want anyone to feel what I had to feel because of who they are. I have come to learn that we can save lives if we start to change policies that normalize the oppression that many LGBT youth feel.

So what does this have to do with Chick-fil-A? My challenge to you is to dig deep. What message is sent to our youth, to our society, when organizations make statements that a segment of the population should not have access to one of the most fundamental cornerstones of our society, marriage? Even deeper yet, should we support an organization that gives millions of dollars to organizations who deem me (your neighbor) as less than, abominations and deserving death?

Some of the organizations Chick-fil-A supports provide harmful so called “conversion” therapy for LGBT people, lobbied the United States Congress to support Uganda's “Anti-Homosexuality Bill”, oppose efforts to end school bullying, and compares us to pedophiles. See it’s much bigger than marriage equality.

These policies and positions empower, embolden and normalize the actions of those who harm my community. This past week, in the United States, a woman was attacked and her attackers carved anti-gay slurs into her body, another person was beaten and a third was firebombed all because they are Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual or Transgender. Currently, 21 states in the United States could fire us because we are LGBT.

And in even in 2012, many members of my community fear that we may be victims of violence because of our sexual orientation or gender identity. Rockland County is better than this, NY is better than this and I know America is surely better than this.

To me, we need to start connecting the dots and start digging deep. I believe it is our moral and ethical responsibility to do so.  This is more than eating or not eating an artery clogging chicken sandwich; this is about working to end institutional and systematic oppression.  

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JJ August 4, 2012 at 12:14 am
Agree 100%
Teleman August 4, 2012 at 12:31 am
Well said Sol, people are entitled to their opinions and certainly without fear that government officials will use the power of the government to attack them and their businesses-
PM August 4, 2012 at 01:21 am
well said
samhambone August 4, 2012 at 02:14 am
fwiw - i wonder what is dan cathay's opinion on hetero folks who get married and then call it quits and get divorced? i also get a kick out of the right wing folks who defend traditional marriage and yet get divorced once, twice, thrice (didn't newt do this?) in for a penny in for a pound. i'm pretty sure jesus christ's teachings forbid divorce. so keep your one man and one woman view of marriage and stay married (even if you don't like and don't get along anymore) or else be a hypocrit.
Racman63 August 4, 2012 at 11:15 am
Never even heard of Chick fillet prior to this week, but the debacle proves once again that the North needs to secede from the South in this country. We'll trade you Alaska for Southern California, Staten Island for South Beach.
Deal?
Mike Rodriques August 4, 2012 at 11:37 am
While I wholly disagree with everything guy says on the subject of gay rights, I can only do one thing...Defend his right to say it. The blogger absolutely has the right to boycott this persons business, and I support her actions.
Having said that, the government on the state or local level has no right to attempt a block of this business in their community. It's the right, and some would argue the responsibility, of the people and the free market to determine what should happen to this moron and his opinions...
Heron August 4, 2012 at 01:22 pm
This is what he said when asked about those who oppose the company's support of the traditonal family: "Well, guilty as charged. We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that." So he is not divorced.
Always Wondering August 4, 2012 at 04:53 pm
Watchdog, it most certainly is... "by the power vested in me, by the State of (insert state name)..." This is why people can be married by a justice of the peace and not just in religious ceremonies. Not just a religious institution. Just because a church may not recognize does not make it less of a marriage.
Watchdog August 4, 2012 at 05:10 pm
Can you showme where he said he is " declaring war"? Openly hates"? Oppresses"? I know that he openly employs gays. Serves gays. But hates gays? NO I don't see that. Where is it?
Joseph Coe August 4, 2012 at 05:30 pm
continued: “Let’s stay on topic here, please. Don’t introduce nuclear weapons into what is already a contentious issue”.
This is one of the funniest yet most revealing comments that came from my chick-fil-a blog. What is so hard for people to hear when we talk about social justice? What within our bones makes us so adverse to hearing a perspective that would provide space for all of us to achieve our fullest potentials? A space where our neighbors and friends are treated with respect. Why do we fight so hard not to hear it? I’m not even talking about agreeing with this perspective, but actually giving ourselves an opportunity to fully listen to and understand it. Trust me, I have heard the opposite perspectives; and I at some point I may have actually agreed with them. The difference is, I have given myself the gift of listening to the voices of marginalized, those who are most impacted by the policies and positions we take. I felt like a majority of the people who commented on this post didn’t actually look for meaning in my words. They used my words to rally behind issues that I didn’t raise. ie: I never weighed in on the mayors intervening. To be honest, I’m conflicted on that issue and haven’t formulated an opinion, yet.
Joseph Coe August 4, 2012 at 05:30 pm
continued: With this in mind, it’s not surprising that a lot of the posts engaged in faulty red-herring arguments used to divert the attention from the point that I am making: that groups such Focus on the Family, Family Research Council and Exodus International are stepped in a hatred of LBGT people and that the owner of Chick-Fil-A gave them substantial amounts of money. And by supporting organizations such as these, Chick-Fil-A, as a business, is supporting the subjection and suffering of LGBT folks throughout this country. These groups perpetuate and help sustain a country where young people such as myself where and are being tormented and harmed in school, they dehumanize us and make it easy for people to see us as something to feared and thus something that we can harm. They work against anti-bullying policies, they try to “fix” gay people (causing intense psychological damage), and lobby for laws that continue discrimination. And if you are truly interested in exploring the depths and insidious nature of these groups start doing some research—- its truly horrifying.
What do we have to lose by looking at the world through this lens? A lens where we see the human dignity in our neighbors. I think we have all the world to gain.
Heron August 4, 2012 at 06:22 pm
LOL. I'm also glad to hear someone else say that they had never heard of Chick-Fil-A. (what a funny name.)
Teleman August 4, 2012 at 09:04 pm
I frankly don't care what he says- he has a right to exercise free speech- weather or not you agree with it, it is not only illegal, but just plain un-american for politicians to use the power of government to try to shut out a private business because they don't agree with his opinion. The same folks who constantly preach "tolerance" always seem to be the LEAST tolerant themselves.
Teleman August 4, 2012 at 09:06 pm
Once you leave the Liberal disaster areas NY, DC, and LA, you soon realize the rest of the country is quite conservative- I am happy they go over the top on these issues- it only solidifies our conservative base to get the Bama out in November. And it turned out to be a PR bonanza for Chik-fil-a
Jaques Strape August 5, 2012 at 12:13 am
Sure is a dirty word when you've got a national socialist...
Jaques Strape August 5, 2012 at 12:14 am
All this talk of chicken is making me hungry. There isn't a restaurant around here with the name Chick-fil-A. Where can I find one?
Joseph Coe August 5, 2012 at 06:21 am
And thank you for your wonderful and affirming note.
Joseph Coe August 5, 2012 at 06:25 am
Colleen---- thank you for summing up my points. And I am sorry to hear about your friend----- too many lives are lost---- we are and continue to need to do something about that. Much love and respect.
JJ August 5, 2012 at 11:42 am
RELAX...............it's America.
Alan D. August 5, 2012 at 01:28 pm
Who are we to suggest who anyone should love? Who is Chick-Fil-A to bring an anti-Gay agenda while conveniently profiting off of clients of both sexual orientations? Most conservatives that I have met, and judging by the comments on this board, are an uneducated lot of fearful people.
Teleman August 5, 2012 at 04:12 pm
I would never suggest who anyone should "love", I will however stand behind what I believe is the definition of marriage-as far as Chik-fil-a- the president of that company has a right to believe and say whatever he wants to and not have politicians use the power of the government to shut out a Gays have a right not to go to a Chik-fil-a if they choose not to.
Steve Knowlton August 6, 2012 at 01:31 pm
Bingo on the BIZZARO! http://conservative-alliance.org/index.php?topic=6185.msg25339#msg25339
jc August 6, 2012 at 09:23 pm
Which world would that be? You are no doubt very well traveled and very well read to know how the whole world feels.
Mary August 7, 2012 at 12:46 am
Tolerance being shown once again...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8G4jI3VI8U
Mike August 7, 2012 at 04:05 am
@Robert Smith- i love it when someone starts their comment "if you actually read ....". Of course we read it. I cant help it if you dont like my comment, but this nonsense about not reading. I did not personally critisize Joe. Yes, I disagree withnhis position and since he chooses to write a public blog, we can comment and btw, these comments are screened prior to posting. Not to belabor the point which has been made now ad nauseum but this CEO can choose to spend his money as he wishes. Once again, you say an opposing viewpoint is bigotry. Believe me if tis business made any illegal or bigoted actions, it would be fined. What isthe differnce between this buisness and Starbucks, Amazon or Nike which are major supportters of the LGBT? In fact as publically traded companies, they should not make any donations to groups that some of their shareholders might object to.
Mike August 7, 2012 at 04:17 am
How is he "picking on gays". Please provide a quote from Mr. Cathay that supports your statement that he is intolerant and picking on gays. He said he supports traditional marriage between a man and a woman. He never said one derogatory comment. He just said something you disagree with and you label him a bigot. What utter nonsnense
Susan Trowbridge Adams January 15, 2013 at 08:11 pm
Snopes is pretty clear that Chick-Fil-A is owned and operated (at the corporate level) by people who are devoutly and publicly evangelical, who believe that marriage is between one man and one woman, and who have donated both money and catering to Christian Right groups who advocate against gay marriage. Not a lot, but some. There is little evidence that the Candys are hatefully bigoted, nor that they have donated any money at all, let alone millions, to DOMA lobbyists. They don't like the idea of gay marriage, that's all. That's *awful,* but it's not as bad as big corp spending hundreds of thousands of dollars to keep us from knowing whether we're eating GMO corn & soy -- not that anyone instituted the comparison, that's just me. They appear to adhere to fair hiring practices, they do not engage in bigoted behavior in terms of customer service, and now that the scraps are all gathered it seems very unlikely that the company spent any money at all, directly, to prevent same-sex marriage -- very little even in donations to Christian groups who might advocate against it. I'm probably not going to spend a ton of money there anyway, but I don't think we need to keep Chick-Fil-A forever in public-opinion Coventry. Sol -- just btw: is it possible that I met you a thousand years ago in Detroit? Your name is on the jacket of a book of poetry I own.
James Adnaraf January 15, 2013 at 08:48 pm
A few important questions:
If you are against gay marriage, but pro civil unions, are you a homo phobe? If the answer to the above question is yes, are leftwing Democrats like Obama and John Kerry former homo phobes? Does the government of a state or municipality have the right to try to prevent a business from locating within its jurisdiction because it disagrees with the beliefs of the owner of that business?
BooBees January 15, 2013 at 09:45 pm
Jeff, you and I don't see boob to bee on most issues but I aways appreciate your intellectual honesty and take-it-to-em attitude.
Lanning Taliaferro (Editor) January 15, 2013 at 10:55 pm
Folks have asked for citations. Here are some.
This is one Internet page describing anti-gay organizations that Chik-Fil-A's foundation has donated to. http://www.policymic.com/articles/12219/all-the-anti-gay-companies-you-fund-when-you-spend-5-25-on-a-chick-fil-a-sandwich Here is the Family Research Council's response to accusations from the Southern Poverty Law Center. http://www.frc.org/issuebrief/answering-the-southern-poverty-law-centers-attacks-upon-family-research-council
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