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Stony Point Board Approves New Sign Law

SPACE sees benefits of new Stony Point Sign Law but Freedom of Speech issues may lead to unequal enforcement by the town

 

Dear Editor:

In an effort to curb the increasing clutter of lawn signs and political campaign signs that have become larger and more numerous during each election season, the Stony Point Town Board voted 4-1 on Tuesday, July 10 to approve amendments to the town sign law which requires permits and limits on sign size, location and length of time – with fees of up to $350 per day and jail time for violators. 

The new law prohibits temporary signs from being placed on any town property or right of ways. As with the old law, signs may not be posted on trees, telephone poles, rocks, bridges, fences and traffic signs. Political candidates running for office must still apply for a permit, post a security deposit of $250 and homeowners are limited to only one sign per candidate.  

Lawn signs do provide a least expensive form of advertising for candidates. Under the old law, the posting of a deposit has worked well to ensure that all signs are retrieved within days after the election. However, limiting the signs to only private property under the new law may also significantly limit awareness by voters of pending elections and names of candidates – especially for school board and budget elections. 

While reasonable limits on posting of signs may be a good idea, it also raises issues of freedom of speech and whether or not the town has the right to limit which signs and how many you may place on your private property. As written, there is no provision within the new sign law for expressing a political opinion or other forms of protest protected by free speech.

What if you wanted to place a "Stop the War" sign or a "Go Giants" sign or a quote from the Bible on your front lawn? Should the town government be able to require you to apply for a permit, charge you a fee and place a time limit on how long you can place the sign in your own yard? 

Under the new sign law, garage sale signs are exempt from requiring a permit but limited to the owner's yard and for period not exceeding seven days. Garage sale signs have been a source of litter because people never removed their signs after the sale. The old law prohibited signs from being posted on utility poles but was never enforced by the town.

The new law allows for temporary home "for sale" or "for rent" signs, but these must be removed within three days of the sale or rental. Real estate open house signs can remain only for the day of the open house with longer periods of time requiring a permit. No permit is required for contractor signs on premises where construction, renovation or repair is in progress.

Under the new law, non-profits, religious organizations and charities are exempt from the requirement for a permit or fee but not from the regulations of the law. Under the new law, any signs for charitable fundraisers and community events are also prohibited from being posted on town property and rights of ways. This will prevent community fundraisers and church bazaars from publicizing their events on a sign along public streets – a very effective and least expensive form of advertising a charitable or non-profit community event.

While SPACE understands the town's good intentions behind adoption of the amended Town of Stony Point Sign Law (Article IX), we are very concerned that some provisions within the new sign law are excessive, unnecessary and not well considered. It may limit voter awareness and participation in local elections, could limit fundraising ability for charities and non-profits and could lead to unequal enforcement  of the law – unfairly singling out signs of political opponents or of unpopular opinions, while selectively turning a blind eye to others more favorable. We expect our elected officials to not only read the law but understand its consequences. 

By attempting to regulate non-commercial, temporary signs and "political speech" based on content they are clearly violating citizen freedoms protected by the First Amendment of the United Sates Constitution, which they have taken an oath to uphold.

George Potanovic, Jr.
President, SPACE
Stony Point Action Committee for the Environment 

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Steve July 17, 2012 at 08:26 pm
It is funny but when the now Supervisor rang my doorbell for my vote i mentioned this eyesore. I suggested a bill board that would allow apprived signs for a small fee that would look professional, not like a Gypsy caravan. I am glad to see they are going to do something. I believe in freedom of speech but not frdedom of mess. Cool beans to whoever is doing this
earth2murf July 17, 2012 at 09:08 pm
Clarkstown has this law and it is ignored every fall....No one gets fined...
William Demarest (Editor) July 18, 2012 at 04:51 am
The Willow Grove Road exit (northbound) of the Palisades Interstate Parkway in Stony Point is like a giant community bulletin board. It's amazing the variety of signs for local events and gatherings you'll see there.
Steven White July 18, 2012 at 11:21 am
This issue points to the terrible situation we have with communication in this country. The US Postal Service once had a function of facilitating communication by providing low cost delivery of public messages. Now they give a break to the junk mail provider and overcharge non-profit groups. If the town wants to remedy this issue, they should provide an alternative means of communicating for candidates. No one will then want to waste all their time and energy putting up signs when there is an easier, cheaper way to get your message out.
Andromachos July 18, 2012 at 11:36 am
Is it really so bad? Are the signs you see every day so very offensive? Must we beg the government, every time we are slightly put out, to make out neighbors criminals? This may be a valid restriction on free speech, as it addresses only the time, place and manner of the speech, but what are the unintended consequences - fines on homeowners, fines on political candidates and those elected (I suppose those will be very selectively enforced).
More importantly, a tool for government to silence protest against its policies (I have seen lawn sign campaigns in this county against ferry terminals, TZ bridge expansions and other issues). Will an elected official make sure only its opponents supporters are subject to the law - prosecutorial discretion would allow that, too. Just be careful when you ask the government to help you. You may not get what you expect.
jrod July 18, 2012 at 09:30 pm
OK - really? I've been a Stony Pointer all my life. I can't believe the stuff that makes the news here. Our town hasn't yet figured out what to do with the large amount of land it has at Letchworth - the board usually rejects every proposal or suggestion. I look around and see my old town that isn't the same - but it's not progressing either. It's very sad. Yet the large concern seems to be about signs for garage sales. I agree there should be a large community bulletin board. I've followed those signs to different events. It's the massive amount of political signage that takes over the streets. Either way - it's ridiculous. Can somebody prioritize the real (important) needs of this town? It's dying. And nobody can afford to live here anymore. This is why I dont go to town meetings anymore.
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