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Building Restoration On Traphagen Property Proposed

Clarkstown Planning Board learns Rockland BOCES vocational program interested in restoring Vanderbilt House

 

The Clarkstown Planning Board rescheduled its public hearing on the proposed subdivision of the Traphagen property in West Nyack for July 18.  But the board did hear Wednesday night a recommendation from Clarkstown Town Historian Robert Knight for restoring one of the two structures.

He suggested allowing Rockland BOCES vocational students who are learning building trades the chance to renovate the older house on the nine-acre property. The subdivision originally proposed was for about two acres of the site with the 1729 Vanderbilt House and 1820 House to be sold and the remaining acreage be kept by the town and added to the adjacent Germonds Park. Knight recommended the town keep the Vanderbilt House and allow BOCES students to renovate it.

Town Planner Joe Simoes said the Vanderbilt house is a Dutch colonial sandstone building that does not have utilities and is currently uninhabitable. The Traphagen House could be occupied and was until recently.

Knight said the subdivision plan currently being considered is not practical.

“What doesn’t make sense is combining both houses and selling them a s a single lot,” he said. 

According to Knight, a potential buyer would be saddled with the Vanderbilt House, which is a shell with no walls or ceiling.

“I think a three lot subdivision makes a lot more sense,” he said. “There is an interested party that would like to restore the Vanderbilt House.” 

Knight explained he recently took BOCES administrators on a tour of five Clarkstown historic sites with buildings that require repairs and restoration.

He said BOCES is interesting in restoration to the skills learned by its building trade students since new construction has slowed because of the economy.  

He explained the students would undertake a thorough restoration of the building that would retain the historical character of the exterior and completely modernize the interior.

“As long as the town of Clarkstown owns it, they can do it,” he said, noting they could not work on it if it was owned privately. Knight also said once the restoration was complete, the town could sell the house. 

Of the sites visited, he said BOCES was most interested in the Vanderbilt House. The other properties have structures from the 1700s or 1800s.

Teaberry Port is a 1780 Dutch sandstone house on Strawtown Road in West Nyack that has been vacant for 10 years. The New City Railroad Station is an 1876 wood frame stationhouse in the middle of the Vanderbilt Lumber Yard on Route 304 in New City. 

The Josephine Hudson House on Lake Road at Rockland Lake dates from 1860 and is a wood frame two-story house. The Paul/Schuler House and Barn are on Gilchrest Road in Congers.  The Dutch barn dates from 1750 and the wood frame Dutch style house was built in 1810. 

“The town would end up with a finished restored building,” said Knight. “So it’s kind of a win-win situation. Students learn a brand new trade and the town would end up with a complete building instead of an empty shell that it is today.”

 Germonds Park surrounds the property on three sides and according to Knight. The postponement of the public hearing until July 18 gives the town board a chance to review the subdivision proposal.  Planning Board Chair Shirley Thormann asked Knight to write a letter to the town board describing BOCES’ interest in restoration. The town purchased the property last year for $900,000.

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WGMom May 20, 2013 at 09:10 am
It's entirely true that every professional has out-of-pocket expenses. But as someone who worked asRead More a corporate trainer, I can guarantee you I NEVER had to pay out of pocket expenses for supplies to teach classes. Every piece of paper, supply, and even snacks for the participants were fully covered expenses. If I had to spend out of pocket money to procure supplies, I could submit for a reimbursement, and receive it, no questions asked. I am now in school to become a high school teacher and I can see the stark difference in how the education of folks in a corporate environment is incredibly different, and privileged, than the public school environment. I've sat through numerous classes in the Clarkstown and Ramapo districts, doing observations required for my education certification, and while Clarkstown certainly benefits from certain advantages, the shabbiness of being a public school is still there. Furniture, such as teacher desks, that looks like it was purchased in a garage sale 30 years ago... faculty bathrooms that are dark and dingy, nearly crumbling, and sorely in need of updating. Etc. The public expects teachers to have professional training, act professionally, but they lack sometimes basic resources and are expected to function in an environment that feels more like a dungeon than an institution of learning. The citizens of Clarkstown, if they could get a tour of some of the facilities they are expecting children to learn in, and teachers to teach in, would be very surprised. We do supply some great technology, but then we put it in classrooms with windows that won't stay closed when it's windy, as one example. I spent most of my time in South, which is the best of the bunch, facilities-wise. Clarkstown North is a mess, Woodglen's woods are littered with fallen trees no one's cleaned up after Sandy, Laurel Plains had to be shuttered thanks to that whole foul stench... the district is in a situation where there are major capital improvements that are going to be needed. Buildings are aging, and it seems it's only the most basic of upkeep that happens. The district can't even fix the roofs of the buildings without applying for a state grant.
Heywood Jablohme May 18, 2013 at 07:17 am
What professional doesn't spend $500 per year on out of pocket expenses related to their jobs?Read More Staples offering 10% (or 5 in some cases) is hardly an example of the community getting involved. Thankfully, there are other examples of the community and PTA's getting involved and providing needed services. Clarkstown and surrounding areas hardly have substantial unmet needs in their classroom, thankfully.
Truth4all May 16, 2013 at 11:37 am
I guess better late than never. LaCorte is serving his 4th year as Mayor and was Trustee for I thinkRead More 4 years before that. This year is the only time he has brought the idea to the village about participating in this program. He is motivated by the opportunity of getting positive press for his County Executive campaign. The village should have been involved in this program ( as well as the Americorps program) long before this. On a positive note, hopefully the Village will continue this worthwhile partnership for many years to come.
Sunny May 16, 2013 at 03:50 pm
Is there an article on patch about it? I am unable to find except on lohud.com
Green Farmer May 15, 2013 at 08:23 pm
Finally!!
b May 15, 2013 at 07:31 pm
Thank God. It's been a long time coming. Finally someone has paid attention.!!! That man has gotRead More to go.
Watchdog May 16, 2013 at 04:37 pm
George, don't you have enough to do straightening out the affairs of Clarkstown. Overtime in theRead More Police Department is rampant and the Town Attorney is out of control. As Tom Nimick says, we need an outside auditor for that operation since taxpayers were abused with the hiring of a political operative Jay Savino who I understand is singing like a canary. Get on the right side George before the FBI comes a lookin" I hear that the Gromack war chest is the first place they are looking for clues. Do the right thing George or you will get trampled with the rest of them.
Tom Nimick May 15, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Congratulations, George. Now about your other responsibilities as a member of the Town Board withRead More primary oversight over budget and expenditures: Won't you be the one to propose the needed audit of the Office of Town Attorney? You know the problems exist - likely you know more about the problems than I do. It is sad to see you silent in the face of the abuse of patronage. When will we hear your voice on it?
Teacher May 16, 2013 at 07:24 am
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