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Economic Development Committee Talks Poor Showing In Regional Awards

Rockland did the worst of all seven counties in the Mid Huson Region

 

Through its first two years, the Mid-Hudson region was awarded $159 million through the state’s Regional Economic Development Council Awards, but only about $3 million of that came into Rockland.

Rockland is one of seven counties in the region, which is one of 10 regions in the state.


“We had the lowest number of application approval, but we also had the lowest number of applications presented,” said Al Samuels, president of the Rockland Business Association and a voter on the council.

To discuss Rockland’s lack of success in the awards so far, Legislator Ed Day called for a discussion about them at Wednesday’s meeting of the Rockland County Legislature’s Economic Development Committee.

“This is the second year in a row we have not faired that well,” he said.

“At a time where our county is trying to find all different ways of survival that there seems to be a potential for us to do things that might aid that without going to our local taxpayers. So I think it’s even more critical at this point.”

Samuels said it’s “damned embarrassing” to be a part of the council and see how poorly Rockland does. During the meeting, Samuels indicated a possible reason for Rockland’s low success rate is due to a lack of communication. He said it could be elected officials not getting the word out about the program, which gives out grants and tax incentives.

“Rockland doesn’t seem to have embraced this new concept,” he said. “We have not heard from elected officials, pronouncements to their constituents, no matter what the level of government is. There’s a new economic development paradigm in New York state, and we have great opportunity now to tap into this. There are new requirements, but guess what? We have people in Rockland who are part of the process.”

Last year, Rockland had 12 applicants, three of which were funded. For comparison, last year Westchester had 32 projects funded, Ulster County had 25, Orange County had 21, Dutchess County had 19, Sullivan County had 12 and Putnam County had eight.

In Rockland, Bon Secours Charity Health System got $500,000 to construct an office building to house a regional cancer center, medical reference lab and physician practice offices. The New Square Community Improvement Council was awarded $600,000 to construct a new building for a grocery store and the expansion of the major service organization for this distressed community. The Village of New Square got $750,000 to acquire vacant property to assist in the expansion of Hatzlacha Supermarket, Inc and a local nonprofit organization, SHARE of New Square.

Samuels noted that of the five towns in Rockland, all the money went to organizations in just one town, Ramapo.

“There has been comment that Ramapo has gotten the lion’s share of what Rockland has gotten,” he said. “It’s true, but you know what? The Hassidic community has seen the process, has said, ‘This is what we have to work with.’ They’ve embraced it and it’s working for them. The rest of Rockland has to do the same.”

Samuels said moving forward, he and Dr. Cliff Wood, president of Rockland Community College and a council member, will have to do more out in the community to get other areas involved. Still, he said, it’s not a coincidence Ramapo has been successful.

He also said he thinks that applicants in Rockland didn’t take advantage of he and Wood, who were willing to help with applications. He said of the 12 applications, two were for roofing issues that weren’t seen as emergencies and four were feasibility studies, meaning half were tossed out rather quickly.

“We had four feasibility studies out of the 12 applications. We’re not funding that,” Samuels said. “We’re not funding a study to determine if maybe there can be an economic development project somewhere down the road.”

Samuels said in the past he asked Chairwoman of the Rockland County Legislature Harriet Cornell to hold a summit on economic development, but there hasn’t been one yet. He asked again to hold one to get the word out. He also said Rockland elected officials need to show more support at council meetings and come out to show the council that Rockland is interested in the program.

Day agreed with Samuels and said this year that has to change.

“We have to get outside of this box we’re in where we’re here in the county and the towns are other things and the businesses and people are not part of it,” he said. “We’re in this together and this is where it’s going to start, because very clearly, what you’re charge is, your charge is bringing information to the county. We’ve got an administration, we’ve got a legislature. It’s our responsibility to move forward. We have not done that, collectively.”

Mike January 24, 2013 at 03:56 pm
This story just illustrates what is wrong with government. Here we have a State Economic Development arm giving money and incentives to local (county) economic development arms. They are giving tax breaks and other economic incentives to lure business to one area or another. Aside from theses sort of direct costs, I imagine there muct be a fairly significant cost to run each of of these development councils. The entire thing seems like a political gimmick that creates more jobs for state workers than actual jobs and opportunities in the community. Rather than have these gimmicky incentives, why doesnt the Legislature and Executive Branch of the state better manage the states budget, cutting all the unnessary costs and duplicty and create a permanent tax incentive to lure business and workers to the state? Why anyone or any business would want to come here when there are so many less expensive and business friendly environments even in neighboring states is beyond me. These gimmick are transparent and in the long run most likely dont even pay for themselves other than if you are now another state worker at one of these Economic Development Councils.
Mike Hirsch January 24, 2013 at 04:53 pm
Thank god that at least one of the candidates for County Exec is in communication with the RBA. Hopefully Day will get elected and continue this pro-business conversation and co-operation.
Pat Godfrey January 24, 2013 at 07:37 pm
Another government program not doing anything substantive to help out the constituency. 1.8 million dollars go to Ramapo. That is outrageous. There obvious is some kind of favoritism going on here. This though isn't the long term answer. The real answer is the towns and county giving tax breaks to attract businesses to the county. We have unfortunately economically illiterate representatives in Rockland.
Sidney January 25, 2013 at 01:48 am
You can't get the money if you don't ask for it. You have to ask for the money and you have to qualify. There is no secret language. You have Dr. Wood and Mr. Samuels ready and begging to help. Don't blame Ramapo for being successful. Blame Clarkstown's lack of initiative in failing to ask. If I were a representative in Clarkstown, I couldn't say much for myself in regard to this story. If Ed Day was in such close contact with the RBA, maybe he could have facilitated some transactions. He didn't. He's not worth any praise or pomp or mention here. Stop plugging your do-nothing candidate.
Defender January 25, 2013 at 02:31 am
Tell me Cristobal - oops I mean Sidney - what exactly does Ed Day have to do with this problem right now? He's one of 17 and didn't write the proposals. And the RBA is a private organization representing local businesses, not the board that decides who gets the awards. He's doing what he should be - taking note of a problem that no one was aware existed until now, bringing attention to it, and trying to assist in finding a solution. Whoever the executive is in the fall will have substantially more ability to do anything - but let's compare his actions against Schoenberger (nothing despite being the chairman of budget and finance - probably couldn't find something to spend money on), LaCorte (nothing despite big talk and Nixonian political talents), and Fried (nothing despite... despite... well seriously, no one cares about Fried except LaCorte).
Watchdog January 25, 2013 at 02:40 am
"New Square Community Improvement Council was awarded $600,000 to construct a new building for a grocery store and the expansion of the major service organization for this distressed community. The Village of New Square got $750,000 to acquire vacant property to assist in the expansion of Hatzlacha Supermarket, Inc and a local nonprofit organization, SHARE of New Square."
Interesting that the only two projects approved are located in the only segregated lily white village in Rockland, represented by Legislator Shoenberger. This reminds me of the deep south in the 1950's. These "projects" will only benefit the segregated few and may be in direct violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964 but that dies not seem to concern Schoenberger since he received 99% of the votes from New Square to get him elected. Sidney, instead of attacking Ed Day, ask Mr. Schoenberger why he is not doing anything about bringing more diversity to the Village of New Square.
Mike Hirsch January 25, 2013 at 03:07 am
Sidney, I agree with you that no one should blame the Hasids for being successful at getting public funds, but to say that Ed Day is a do nothing candidate is simply not correct. Ever since he was elected to the legislature he has worked tirelessly swimming against the current. Maybe he hasn't achieved all of his goals, but what do you expect when the majority are opposed to his ideas? He is only 1 of 17. That's why we need him as County Exec. He will still only be one man, but he'll have a bigger stick. I give him alot of credit. We are very fortunate indeed that he has thrown his hat into the ring.
Sidney January 25, 2013 at 04:00 am
Mr. Hirsch, thank you for your thoughtful reply. Defender, Watchdog, you're both saying, well, something. Let me sum up what I am hearing from you and my replies:
1. To Mr. Hirsch,Thank you again for a thoughtful reply. I disagree with you regarding Ed Day in this context. He did not ask for help and he did not help anyone get economic development funding. Don't bring him into this conversation. 2. Defender, I don't know who Cristobal is, so you can just call me Sidney. The RBA can help and has helped people get funds. Ed Day had nothing to do with any of it. If by "taking note", you mean saying something and not following through, then yes, Ed Day is taking note. By that same token, you, "Defender", should be commended and drafted into this County Executive race. 3. Watchdog: regarding the "segregated lily white village in Rockland," I somehow doubt that you know someone who tried to move there and was refused. Go ahead and break that barrier. Move there.
Sidney January 25, 2013 at 04:05 am
Really, I'm a coward and "defender" isn't? Don't change the rules.
Sidney January 25, 2013 at 04:11 am
And by the way, nobody is paying attention to the great work Dagan LaCorte has been doing in Suffern. Your respective "Agendas" are no different than mine.
If you were really looking for a "lone voice", you would see what a great job he's done single-handedly keeping taxes under the cap and containing development. Instead you're just bashing Jews and propping up Ed Day, who we all know has been running for County Executive for more than 8 years.
Jack Moolick January 25, 2013 at 04:11 am
Sidney you seem to have a fixation for attacking Legislator Day but your charges are disengeniousat best since Mr Day seems to be the most vocal single Legislator bringing the important issues of Economic Development, Patrick Farm and for the last four years, the completely flawed budget, which was rammed through by the majority prinarily Mr Schoenberger and Mrs Cornell.Had we listened to Ed Day we would not be in the financial stew we find ourselves in with still no solution in sight. While I realize you have an Agenda since all 4 of your posts attack Ed Day, you are playing fast and loose with the facts while you are not willing to add credence by posting your real name . This is very distasteful. and frankly somewhat cowardly.
Watchdog January 25, 2013 at 04:29 am
"3. Watchdog: regarding the "segregated lily white village in Rockland," I somehow doubt that you know someone who tried to move there and was refused. Go ahead and break that barrier. Move there."
That is not the criteria for being in violation. It is so painfully obvious that this is a Community with ZERO tolerance for other races and cultures, it is sickening. If that is what Schoenberger represents, he should resign from office. I have never seen such a blatant depiction of discrimination and unwillingness to interact and assimilate in the Community in my entire existence on this planet. Perhaps when you open your new grocery stores on taxpayer dollars, you will see fit to reach out to the different cultures in your market area by offering a variety if ethnic foods for your Hispanic and African American and Haitian American neighbors but I won't hold my breath. Remember it s those very neighbors whose tax dollars contributed to you getting this Grant. It is time fir you and Schoenberger to do your part and give thanks to the Community outside your segregated Village.
Defender January 25, 2013 at 04:29 am
Keeping taxes under the cap by running up a $4 million deficit. Sorry, that doesn't count as an accomplishment. That's like bragging about not asking for a raise while instead maxing out your credit cards to pay your expenses. Great record.
Watchdog January 25, 2013 at 04:37 am
Telling the truth and citing the real facts js not bashing but since you have no retort to the blatant acts of discrimination, your only recourse is to again pay the victim. Guess what Sidney, no one is listening. You are not fooling anyone. Facts are facts. New Square is like the deep south in the 1950's.
Sidney January 25, 2013 at 04:50 am
Are you a "watchdog" or a jew-baiter?
Don January 25, 2013 at 05:19 am
Hopefully Lacorte's leadership skills are better than his texting skills. http://www.rocklandtimes.com/2013/01/24/dagan-lacaught/
Andromachos January 25, 2013 at 12:43 pm
As I recall, and I can not find the article at the moment, a few years ago an out of town investor managed to get a New Square house at tax or foreclosure auction. Before he could move in, a wing of the house was mysteriously demolished by a backhoe or bulldozer in the middle of the night. Oddly, no one in the overcrowded village noticed the destruction.
Watchdog January 25, 2013 at 01:51 pm
Hey Sidney, do you have any suggestions fir anyone who may consider New Square as a place to move? I googled, googled and googled and cannot find a real estate agent in New Square or a single home for sale??
http://www.trulia.com/NY/New_Square/ On that basis, and from all appearances, it is the single most closed and segregated community in Rockland or anywhere else for that matter. They should be disqualified from receiving any economic development grants on that basis alone. There is not a single minority voice nor an attempt to attract minorities in that community. I cannit even find a real estate agent or a home for sale? It is interesting that the Legislator for this completely segregated, racist community is Shoenberger, the man who rubber stamped the phony budgets of Scott Vanderhoef. And you have the nerve to attack a man like Ed Day who has been warning about this fiscal irresponsibility for years only to be thwarted in his efforts by Shoenberger?
Defender January 25, 2013 at 08:55 pm
Sidney - classic example of how the particular group in question does business. Briefly defend indfensible practices, and when backed into a corner with facts, lash out with the ol' anti-Semitism charge. Much like when Mr. St. Lawrence (a Catholic in the pocket of the Hasidim) labels Jewish opponents of Hasidic expansion anti-Semites.
protectpropertyrights February 16, 2013 at 05:23 pm
"Regionalism" has the effect of restructuring government. It creates a top down, rather than a bottom up approach to government and takes away a citizen's ability to have local representation.

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