Lawmaker: Columbia University Should Fire Brinks Robbery Participant Kathy Boudin

Rockland County Legislator Ed Day says "should never have been paroled in 2003, and she certainly should not be educating students.

Rockland County Legislator Ed Day, R-New City, a candidate for Rockland County executive, today called on Columbia University and the Columbia School of Social Work to immediately terminate the adjunct professorship of Kathy Boudin, the paroled radical convicted of murder for her role in the Oct. 20, 1981 Brinks robbery and murders in Rockland County.

Nyack Police Officer Waverly Brown and Sgt. Edward O'Grady were killed at a road block at the entrance to the New York State Thruway on Mountainview Avenue in Nyack, and Brinks guard Peter Paige was killed in the armored truck robbery outside the Nanuet Mall.

“I come to this both as a former police officer and parent of a Columbia student,” said Day. “Kathy Boudin should never have been paroled in 2003, and she certainly should not be educating students. She was directly responsible for the deaths of those police officers, asking them to lower their weapons so her compatriots could ambush and kill them, and she was only eligible for parole at all because she managed to cop a plea deal.”

The Brinks robbery, beyond the murders, had a lasting impact on Rockland County and New York State. The incident led to improved communications among local police departments in and improvements in weapons and protective gear - bulletproff vests - used by local police officers. In Rockland, the cost of the Brinks case in part led to the launch of a sales tax in Rockland County to help fund county government.

Day noted that the Brinks robbery gang was armed with automatic weapons.

“At issue here,” Day continued, “is not whether there should be academic diversity or a broad spectrum of life experiences amongst the faculty at a university. At issue is that there are certainly dozens, if not hundreds, ofpotential professors just as qualified for the job, but who never took part in the killing of innocent people in an attempt to fund a revolution.”

Although the Nyack Police Department no longer exists, every year a memorial service at 4 p.m. on Oct. 20 at the site of the Brinks slayings in Nyack brings together survivors of that day along with family members of the victims and hundreds of local, state, regional and national law enforcement officials. A scholarship named in honor of O'Grady and Brown is awarded annually to support Rockland County students seeking a career in law enforcement.

Day added that he supports integration of rehabilitated criminals who have completed their sentences into society, but that someone convicted of such a heinous crime and sentenced to a life sentence should not have been paroled, and “should not be in a position to shape the views of our youth in any capacity.”

Francis T McVetty April 10, 2013 at 04:32 PM
@ Common Sense, If a parent sends their child to Columbia, they certainly know what the university is known for. KKKKKKK is right in his/her assumption. Their heads have already been filled with mush, now all they need is the final touches. This goes for most of the Ivory league universities.
Common Sense April 10, 2013 at 05:14 PM
Well-established: "having permanence or security in a certain place, condition, job, etc". There is very little permanent about the mentality of 17-21 yr olds. Late teenagers are just beginning to think in a serious way about the world outside their immediate circle. Rapid development of ideas, morals and self awareness are considered the norm at that age and I hope do not require a "link" to understand this.
ok lets see the what all the people think of this fact..while a lot of people on here are tearing aprt the minds of the 17 year olds and older..in our country ready??? a 17 year old can with permission enlist in the armed forces!!!! and be allowed to kill people if needed in defense.so the late teenagers in reality by many in here should not be allowed to do those things correct? so in my view I think its less of an impacr for a kid at 17 to listen to someone in class that is run by a Doctorate..then to listen to a army bud show how to shoot people...just my viewpoints.so lighten up bigtop people...a kid coming back from the war to many is considered dangerous..correct by the views in here..??as I originally stated..this whole topic should have never been published..again it was about the votes...
Harley Joe April 10, 2013 at 10:20 PM
Here is a thought... how about making her pay back her free education she received while in jail
stephany April 10, 2013 at 11:46 PM
but then you would have to make everyone who ever got one pay theirs back right,at least if they are alive
stephany April 10, 2013 at 11:57 PM
hey CS Read my first sentence. It was referencing your comment that included all 17 yr olds. 17 year olds have "well established ideology." [that means all 17 yr olds] the question was "where did 6k say all 17 yr olds have "well established ideology." not what is the definition . i know about Google. thanks for nothing.
Jack Moolick April 11, 2013 at 12:49 AM
I have been reading this blog and frankly holding back my commenting to this anonymous blogger who calls himself disgusted but for whom I have a few unprintable names. The man you disgustingly refer to as the "pols kid", Chris Day has fought in two wars attaining the rank of Captain in the United States Army, , earned the BRONZE STAR, is paying his own way through Columbia, finishing up his MBA in 6 months and most importantly for him, raising his family, the same way his parents raised him, in the spirit of volunteerism and concern for those in his close knit Community. His Dad and Mom were hus living example, offering themselves up as volunteers in this same Community for two decades before he thought of expanding his reach, encouraged by many, including me, to all of Rockland. Over the last four years no one and I mean no one has done more to reach out to all citizens, than Ed and his partner and wife, Jean Day. I have never supported a politician at any level the way I support Ed Day because frankly, I never met a politician I was willing to put my family's name behind until I met Ed Day. (Cont'd)
Jack Moolick April 11, 2013 at 12:49 AM
(Cont'd) Unfortunately, running for office has its drawbacks which are especially painful when dealing with anonymous cowards, like you for instance, who punch and hide. So for me, as a long time Rocklander who has raised his family here for 37 years, it comes down to who will I listen to, who has more credibility, who will work tirelessly for my family. Yes Mr. Disgusted, it comes down to either listening to the Anonymous Coward or the Hero who sticks his neck out. For most of us the choice is obvious. Now it is getting dark and if you don't leave, you will not find the rock you live under. As my dad used to say,,"Sonny, you could not shine his shoes"
stephany April 11, 2013 at 04:28 AM
So can we say that if you or you daughter [if you have one] were in jail for 20 to life and you or her were non remorseful and up for parole you would not and you would reccomend she not feign remorse to win patrol and just skip the hearing. I don't know how smart that is, might as well give it the old college try.what do you have to lose by trying. That's rhetorical BTW, because if you told me you wouldn't, I would not believe you. No one else would either,but you surely know hat I wonder what percentage of convicts up for parole and want out of prison do not fake it if they are not remorseful. my guess is 100%, what's yours. I am curious, you say she recently gave a speech calling for the need to release of her co-murderers from prison. Does she include the ones who actually did the shooting or just the ones that got convicted on the felony murder charge. One last question.. Was the felony murder rule used to convict all the non shooters at brinks changed in any way since 1981 in NY. Can you elaborate for the people here why some people think the felony murder rule is much to broad and bordering on, if not actually, on unconstitutional Is it true under the felony murder rule that was in effect in 1981 that if Michael Bongiorno lent Kathy Boudin $10 for gas to go into the u-haul you could be in jail for life under the felony murder rule even if you had no clue about what the van was for or just met Boudin. if not please explain why.
stephany April 11, 2013 at 04:34 AM
sorry i have to watch my spelling for a while you would recommend she not feign
Curious April 11, 2013 at 05:19 AM
http://menrec.com/why-did-domestic-terrorists-meet-with-occupy-albany/ The above link explains exactly why Kathy Boudin should not be teaching our youth. It also answers these questions: 1) Is she remorseful 2) Has she really been rehabilitated. The short answer to both questions is a resounding NO. Last year, April 4, 2012, Boudin & five other terrorist blasts from the past were guest speakers at a seminar in Albany with a group of "occupy Albany" protesters to discuss the future of their movement. It's a very interesting & informative article.
KKKKKKK you are totally correct..patch wouldnt allow my comment yesterday.it was about a 17 year old with parental consent can go into the ARMED FORCES or any one 18 or over can do it too..so all those on here saying kids at that age arent capable of anything are misinformed..if our Goverment allows kids to be trained to shoot and kill well what is worse? a kid sitting in a classroom listening to someone or a kid listening to a intense armed service training them to shoot AND KILL??i KNOW MY THOUGHTS ON IT..and people this whole article about a poli running for office and his thoughts was a waste like who cares???
wow another hater...when any poli in waiting has the guts to make Rockland a one county service for the PD,the Public Works, The Schools..The Highway department..then I will be impressed...there is not one that I have seen willing to man up to go forward in that FISCALLY Responsible Manner..like we need 6 or 7 seperate departments for this county..they havent invented that poli yet at least not in rockland...they wont go against the union votes.so typical so disgusting..
Francis T McVetty April 11, 2013 at 05:35 PM
Thank you for that post!!!
stephany April 11, 2013 at 06:19 PM
"The above link explains exactly why Kathy Boudin should not be teaching our youth. " Can you be more specific. What did she actually say that has you concerned.
Seen The Town April 11, 2013 at 11:19 PM
I spent the last Three, Four days arguing in favor of Kathy Boudin, a person I know little about. I would have spent another Three, Four months if it proved the point that higher education, employment opportunities for the ex-con, and standing up for what's right, is a fight worthy of my time. After reading the above link, and seeing that Kathy Boudin "joked about the Brinx job", as a way of entertaing an audience, for whatever purpose, anti-goverment, whatever...I have to admit that I was wrong! While I initially stated in my very first Post, or shortly thereafter, that I am not a Kathy Boudin supporter; there is no way I could substantiate my argument without exemplifying her as a role model for returning Parolees. I could have just walked away and acted as if I didn't see that link, hear her words, but I am bigger than that today. I figured Twenty Two years in, 10 out of the joint, she was making a successful community re-entry, she was remorseful giving back, and willing to meet with the victims family. Plus being an ex-con myself I know how sometimes society and its members can hold a lasting grudge. But I was wrong this time...she's no role model, she should resign her position. Maybe some of you are saying one link and he flipped like that? I don't second guess my gut no more, and when I'm wrong I admit it, otherwise I'm still just that same con...and...I'm not!
stephany April 12, 2013 at 01:56 AM
Naomi Jaffe joked about it, not Boudin. Jaffe continues to speak of the Weather Underground’s past, sharing knowledge of the group’s “resistance to an unjust system,” likening it to the “same injustices that we are seeing the Occupy movement reacting to resisting today.” She jokes about the murderous Brinks event as being one of several necessary “expropriations”, necessary because “revolutionary work is not funded by government”.
Seen The Town April 12, 2013 at 03:13 AM
I know what the article said. She humored in it with them. Or did they do like Patty Hearst and make her go there. Someone else said the "company you keep". I wasn't feeling the get together, I wouldn't go anywheres near them. I moved 100 miles away from where I use to live when I got out for the last time. Sometimes I wonder if its far enough? How do you apologize to the victims family by hanging out with members from a group who have direct links to the nucleus of the problem? There is no such thing as being a little pregnant, either you are or your not. MY GUT...says she should resign and leave this neighborhood and their memories alone. The world is a big place!
Common Sense April 12, 2013 at 01:49 PM
@Seen The Town is right. There are many crimes for which a set period of rehabilitation is appropriate and sufficient. Repeated acts of terrorism and a wanton disregard for human life, suffering and dignity is not one of those crimes. Redemption demands a lifetime of repentance. Ms Boudin IMHO should be respectful and go live a quiet life somewhere, give back as much as she can, and avoid seeking the limelight.
Seen The Town April 12, 2013 at 03:47 PM
I think it is important that I say, I don't need Kathy Boudin, "never really did", to support my points of interest. She would have been a powerful example if in fact she was not "divided down the middle", wher she stands, and who she stand with, while expressing what she stands for. Since there is no room for a grey area in the issues I support, there is no need for me to deviate from my primary purpose which is to promote fair treatment for the returning ex-offender, whether it be employment, educational goals, or just being able to make a successful transition back into society without being targeted about issues that they have already addressed through their incarceration. While I spent many years in total disregard for the rules of society and those that uphold them, ironically enough I ultimately ended up in a family with two members in law enforcement, a college bound step daughter, and an opportunity to be a functional and contributing member of my community. I still have alot of reservations, as well as issues with authority. However, I do see things alot differently today. I will also go out of my way to help anyone who wants to end the cycle of recidivism. Yet, by no means though am I willing to compromise my own morals or what I know to be the right thing to do.
stephany April 12, 2013 at 05:13 PM
I don't understand STT..what is the bottom line in the meantime "She humored in it with them." First off the article is wrong, because nobody humored anything or anybody about the killings so she could not "humor in it with them". Second the link is to an article that clearly mis-states what happened. Watch the video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RibnadxaMV4 that the article is referencing. start at 6 min 50 seconds..As i said Jaffe lightly jokes that the govt does not fund their cause. it got a laugh. big deal. Some how Curious, who has yet to reply with specics, thinks Boudin was saying it or at least laughing at it. She obviously did not say anything and He could not possibly know who was laughing at it, but it don't matter because it was not anything about brinks.Of course he is as wrong as the article on both counts. if you have proof "She humored in it with them." I will join the side that wants her fired. attending something for the father of her baby and ex husband is not proof she was guilty of anything but that. I hope you all realize that if you [anybody] had no clue who Boudin was, noting of her intentions or philosophy, and was approached by a stranger named Kathy Boudin on the day of the murders and she asked you for directions to the Nanuet Mall,and you gave her them, you would more than likely, if not definitely,be doing at least 75 to life, and be forever labeled a cop/guard killing murderer.
Curious April 12, 2013 at 08:15 PM
Bravo! I personally would like to wish you the best of luck in all of your future endeavors. You sir, I believe, are the living proof of your beliefs. You don't just talk the talk, you have and continue to walk the walk.
Reality April 12, 2013 at 09:57 PM
Hey clueless the parole system has routinely failed society. Now Columbia hopes they didn't fail with Boudine?? Terrible gamble when just last year she was with several of her terrorist murdering thugs in Albany meeting the Occupy Wall Street crew. God help this country!,
Seen The Town April 12, 2013 at 11:31 PM
Now Jaffe "Lightly Jokes" go ahead, minimize it. The article is wrong, discredit it! For Kathy Boudin to stand tall with prior co-conspirators or even affiliates of co-conspirators, for any purpose at all, speaks volumes of her desire to be recognized as the Kathy Boudin of her supposed past. We all know, if you hang out in front of the Barbershop sooner or later your gonna get a haircut. When she stood up and people clapped for her at her introduction, just which Kathy Boudin do you honestly think they were clapping for? Which Kathy Boudin do you honestly think they came to see? I would never again in my life want to even risk this type of possible inference by others. Me, this is how I think. Remorse is a whole lot more than saying I am sorry. Remorse is something I carry with me everyday, everywhere I go, and everything I do throughout the course of my day is with gratitude, and I never need to place myself anywhere, or with anyone who may interfere with that. Now you say that it was never her intention to bring anyone harm, and it was never her intention to be a part of the act of murder. Why then would she share even a moment, with anyone, who is capable of doing the exact things that she never represented, cost her 22 years of her life, or could possibly cause a confict with her agenda to be a responsible and contributing member of society? I know she wasn't being seen with known criminals when she was on Parole? My Bottom line, once again she has made bad choices.
Seen The Town April 13, 2013 at 02:22 AM
Where does it say she attended the event for the father of her baby, and ex husband? Even if does mention that, which I don't recall it being said anywhere, she did not have to go there. She made a decision to go there. She knew this decision could possibly discredit her character and reputation she is supposedly working so hard to rebuild, Yet she did it anyway. Her choice. But don't act as if your confused or upset that people are questioning her character and reputation. While I'll be the first to admit that media reports are often innacurate, misleading, biased, and lacking important information, I'm ok. with how I feel about this. What's good with you? You seem to want to systematically work your way through each Post and walk away as if you know something others don't. You have something new to add? Spit it out! Otherwise, go ahead where life takes you. You, or nobody else is gonna shake me.
Curious April 13, 2013 at 03:54 AM
BTW, my above post was intended entirely for Seen The Town. Most definately not for stephany. As for stephany, you will not receive a "reply" from me on specifics PERIOD, as I made NONE of the claims you stated I have.
stephany April 13, 2013 at 05:03 PM
"Where does it say she attended the event for the father of her baby, and ex husband?" the short answer is,she was there [attended], the [event] was for [Gilberts] book and he is the [father of her baby and her ex-husband.] which is what i said [in essence] what I think you want to THINK I said, but I didn't, was that that her sole reason for attending was in support of a cop killing terrorist , to that i ask you "How would I know why she attended" BTW Gilbert essentially did no more or less than she did,he shot no one too, but he is doing 75 to life so maybe, and i don't know, she feels a little guilty for that , and there are various renditions of who was driving the van, although i believe he was. While i truly doubt, but don't know either, this is the first get together she has attended since she got off parole, i don't actually know what or why she does anything. Neither do you. She may or may not have attended just because of who was focused, but not necessarily because of what he did, which is what she "did" and if this is the only event she has attended since she got off parole one could make your assumption that it was only because it was Gilbert,but you still would be assuming. Gilbert is not getting out, so he has,and never did have, any reason to show remorse and his writings reflect that. It does not mean "she" still thinks that way or not, and until you start reading minds please stick to the facts. I AM NOT TRYING TO SHAKE ANYONE??????
Seen The Town April 14, 2013 at 12:04 AM
See... caught doing exactly what you accuse everyone else of. Making statements...without having any proof! Send me the link! What you fail to recognize is I could care less why she was there. I made my opinion based on the way I felt about her placing herself back around the same people, where all this started. She had a clean break if she desired, yet for whatever reason she chose to go back. You can't tell the families your sorry, you can't show "the important people" the people that you now say you want to be a part of, that you mean what you say when your actions show something else. So all that "What's the bottom line"? "In the meantime answer me this and that" ? who ever said I owed you any explanation. I think I have made myself very clear, and so have you! Common sense Tells us why people do things. Although we don't seem to have none in common...Done with that@!
Seen The Town April 14, 2013 at 02:51 AM
"attending something for the Father of her baby and ex husband is not proof she was guilty of anthing but that" "How would I know why she attended" 'What I think you want to think I said but I didn't' 'and until you start reading minds please stick to the facts' Just start writing the letter!
Rob April 14, 2013 at 03:59 PM
How sad.


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