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Legislature Passes Multiple Deficit Reduction Measures

Legislators pass tax on utility bills to raise revenue but no action on possible 150 layoffs.

 

Rockland County Legislator Jay Hood called it a horrible tax, the worst that’s ever come across his desk. Rockland County Legislator Michael Grant called it the most onerous tax the legislature could raise, and yet the only one they could use to get funds for the county to operate through the rest of the year.


And so, at Tuesday night’s special legislature meeting, a resolution passed by a vote of 14-3 in favor of a new four percent tax on utility bills, which is expected to raise just shy of $12 million per year. The resolution will take effect June 1.

The new tax was just one resolution that legislators spoke out against, but passed Tuesday night. The entire legislature met as the committee of the whole to vote on resolutions as part of the midyear budgeting adjustments to close a $21.1 million gap in the county’s 2012 budget.

“Nothing on the agenda tonight represents what we want for Rockland County. This is not our plan. For that matter, it’s not the county executive’s plan either,” said Legislator Alden Wolfe. “This is what others see as the alternative to a four-penny per $10 increase in the sales tax. Solely because of the lack of action in Albany, this is what we’ve been forced to consider.”

Vanderhoef was at Tuesday’s night meeting and spoke about his proposals at the beginning of the night.

“We submitted to you a proposal which is terribly, terribly difficult,” he said. “It’s difficult from a government standpoint, it’s difficult in terms of fees, it’s difficult in terms of raising fees, but it solves the budget problem for 2012. It closes the gap.”

The county executive urged the legislators to pass the resolutions Tuesday night.

“My proposal, in an effort to keep us from being downgraded once again by Moody’s and [Standard and Poor’s], is precisely what kind of thing they’re looking for to avoid downgrading us again with junk bonds. And what’s at stake is borrowing to keep the county going, keep our operations going. We can’t go down that road,” he said. “So tonight, it’s not just the audience here. Moody’s is watching what happens tonight and how you decide to move forward. They are watching, S&P is watching. We have a meeting on June 14th to tell them the progress we have made to try and get them to change what their perceived notion of Rockland County is. Action is going to be required, and again, it’s not helpful to go back and point any longer to Albany. Now, we need to do what’s required to keep county government operating.”

Because of the , if Rockland were to borrow money, it would have to pay three times as much interest on it, said Legislator Michael Grant.

“This cash flow is absolutely critical to us,” he said. “If we don’t take some of these actions tonight, and those actions include raising revenues, and there are only certain revenues we can raise, Moody’s will downgrade us again, and that triple we’re going to pay in interest is going to go up again if we can find someone to lend us the money.”

At Tuesday’s meeting, two of the resolutions passed that will shift payments to towns and villages. The first was to charge the towns and villages for their full election expenses for the year of 2012, of which the county used to pay for some.

The other involved students from Rockland who attend community colleges outside Rockland. Whereas the county was reimbursing those schools the non-resident tuition of Rockland students who attend there, state education law says Rockland can charge back this cost to towns. This chargeback would be $1.8 million in 2012.

Both resolutions passed by votes of 11-6, with legislators Hood, John Murphy, Christopher Carey, Frank Sparaco, Ed Day and Doug Jobson voting against both. One reason some said they voted against them is because they often complain about the state passing the burden of certain things onto the counties, and this seems like the same thing, except with the county doing it to the towns and villages.

Other resolutions that passed related to the home rule legislation, which they passed back in January, but was not brought to the state level by state representatives.

“That home rule request was to take our estimated deficit of $80 million, ask the state for a bond allowing us to bond that money over 10 years and to raise the sales tax by three-eights of one percent,” Legislator Ilan Schoenberger said.

He added they would’ve paid back the bond with the sales tax, which would’ve been put in a lock box supervised by the state comptroller and would’ve expired once the deficit bond was paid off.

The first resolution was reaffirming the home rule legislation was the best option to fix Rockland’s deficit, which passed 13-4. The second resolution requested that New York State Legislature introduce home rule legislation authorizing the county to finance the deficit by the issuance of bonds. The difference in this bond is that the legislature is asking for $95 million over 20 years, and there’s no sales tax increase.

to help the county’s financial issues was discussed a few times at the meeting, as well. Wolfe said he felt the county’s plan was better because Zebrowski’s “has pretty much the same fiscal protections that ours does, but it adds what I consider to be an intolerable dose of politics.” Zebrowski’s calls for the the formation of a task force appointed by the state and the county to monitor Rockland budget, as well as the county developing a multi-year budget.

After the meeting, Zebrowski released a statement about his plan.

“My deficit reduction taskforce provides sufficient oversight and enforcement so that taxpayers can be confident that the county’s fiscal house will be put in order. The taskforce will ensure that spending reductions will be part of the tough decisions needed to close Rockland County’s deficit. The decreased temporary sales tax contained in this plan coupled with the oversight is preferable to the permanent tax increases, layoffs and cost shifts onto the towns that were proposed in the county’s alternative plan tonight.”

Vanderhoef’s plan also called for the elimination of 150 jobs, but the legislators weren’t presented with a list of those positions until about 5:30 p.m. Tuesday and didn’t have time to really look it over. Schoenberger also said the list seems a bit incomplete and asked for the full list by Friday so the legislature could talk about the positions possibly being cut at their meeting next Tuesday.

Ann May 30, 2012 at 04:55 pm
I'm a bit confused, 150 jobs lost is not enough for you? Many employees who earn between $30,000.00 and $75,000.00 and have worked in their civil service positions for over 18 to 20 years are being told today that they will likely not have a job. Many of these employees are not yet 55 so cannot collect their retirement yet and will lose their medical benefits. These employees like you, have families, live in this County, and pay the same taxes you do!
Walt May 30, 2012 at 05:17 pm
What are you reading? Tax hike with no cuts for now is what I read.
Gregg May 30, 2012 at 05:27 pm
To bad it was a second home. Moving soon?
JP May 30, 2012 at 05:47 pm
The County needs to cut its waste. As for personnel it would be last hired; first fired. Don't forget-the unions have made no concessions whatsoever! While other civil servants in NYS take no raises and actually pay towards their health coverage; its a free ride for R.C. civil servants.
Watchdog May 30, 2012 at 06:05 pm
Ann, do you pay anything for your health insurance?
Watchdog May 30, 2012 at 06:07 pm
Mike are you serious? You could have voted out Vanderhoef and got Kleiner?
Norman May 30, 2012 at 07:13 pm
Exactly J H, I couldn't have said it better myself. I tried to vote some of them out last time around but my guy didn't win. They blame Albany for not giving them the needed funds, well where the hell is Albany going to get the money? Less people working equals less tax revenue. Less consumption of goods and services equals less tax revenue. Raising taxes in this economy is the worst thing that can be done. Services need to be cut, people need to be laid off. I am hiring at my office in Manhattan, any of those folks can come apply for a job with me.
Mike Hirsch May 30, 2012 at 07:47 pm
I was not talking about the County Exec position. I think both Vanderhoef and Kleiner are useless. I was talking about Harriet Cornell, who has been the Legislative Chair for ages. I knew that the County budgets were just so much nonsense three years ago because a good friend of mine who used to work for the county told me so. Most everyone who worked in county government knew that. It was common knowledge. If a poor schnook like me knew about it, Harriet Cornell either knew about it or should have known about it. She and Ilan are just as guilty for kicking this can down the road as Scotty. Now that we've run out of road they should work for free (since they won't be voted out) and give up their pension and benefit packages.
also...anyone look into whether the police who marched in the numerous parades got paid? these are hard times and now the poor taxpayers have to fork out an average of 200 to 300 dollars more now for basic living costs..ie electric..gas..and if any did get paid the REAL INSULT is to those who marched and give up time to protect and help in the fire departments and ambulence corps..lets hope that they too volunteered ...because no one should have been on any payroll for Memorial day
Wonderboy May 30, 2012 at 07:58 pm
Civil service workers were given raises during the housing bubble to pay for an "increase cost of living" mainly because many of them went in over there heads on HELOCs, houses they could not afford, toys like quads for their kids, fancy cars for themselves (getting 12 MPG), hunting cabins upstate, condos in Florida, and the list goes on and on. They should all take a 10% cut in pay (5% over two years per year) and come down to reality with these salaries and make the pensions 50% of there tiers entry pay, yes, so if they get a $30,000 a year pension, TOUGH.
These union people try to claim they are the 99%, no, they are the 20%, just below the "1%". This goes for teachers, cops, firefighters, any union worker. They retire and end up getting another job anyway. It's all a mess and it's going to get worse whether it be Obama or Romney. What's happening in Europe will be 10 times worse here.
Ann May 30, 2012 at 08:00 pm
As a matter of fact I do, Most County Employees understand there needs to be union concessions and have voiced these concerns to the Union Representatives. Some County Employees do not pay for medical benefits but many do. It depends on when you were hired. I don't think there are many employees that would complain about contributing to their health care benefits. However, to ask an employee who is earning $35,000.00 to $45,000.00 per year to pay 20% of a Family Plan which is estimated at $20,000.00 annually and equates to $4,000.00 per year is a bit much. There needs to be a sliding scale by grade. It is time for Management to step up to the plate as well, they need to start paying there share. Again, we all live in this County. We pay mortgages, day care, college tuition, taxes, utilities, etc.
Watchdog May 30, 2012 at 09:18 pm
Ann, if I pay for your health insurance premiums will you pay for mine?
Watchdog May 30, 2012 at 09:42 pm
Ann do you really believe that just because you cannot afford something that others, who may even be less fortunate than you, should pay for it?
Norman May 30, 2012 at 09:43 pm
Ann, what about people like me who are self employed and pay for everything myself, such as retirement, quarterly taxes, health insurance, etc? I'm tired of paying for someone's health care, retirement pension, and getting the poor trash pickup and plowing services that I receive. The legislature talks about how in order to keep the county running they have to close the budget gap, are they kidding me? I would love it if the county shut down because at the end of they day only the services they can't pay for will shut down (non essentials etc) They have enough money to pay the police and fire to protect us. In my budget if I don't have the money for something I don't spend it and I certainly don't steal it from someone else.
Watchdog May 30, 2012 at 09:45 pm
Ann do realize that many of the people whom you want to pay for your medical coverage cannot afford similar coverage for themselves? If so, why should they pay for yours?
for a reference just call the county or local town for a list of the holes they helped let everything fall in!!!!
JP May 31, 2012 at 03:56 am
OK, lets not all dump on Ann; she's just trying to contribute her opinion; and she is one of the county employees who do work very hard.
Brian Goudie May 31, 2012 at 12:02 pm
New Yorkers Leave Like East Germans Fled Communism
http://news.investors.com/article/613163/201205301842/new-yorks-taxation-outweighs-its-attractions.htm
Watchdog May 31, 2012 at 12:42 pm
Soon it will be home to NYSpensioners who PAY ZERO NYS taxes, union employees with their greedy demands and BLOC voters who prey on all of our resources. Get prepared. Mortgage rates are at all time lows. Buy another home somewhere like the politicians are doing. At least you will have somewhere to go when this County falls apart and in the meantime you can rent it put, depreciate it and offset some of the aggregious taxes you are paying.
Brian Goudie May 31, 2012 at 03:16 pm
The generosity of public-sector pension benefits has come under increased scrutiny in recent years, as states and local governments search for ways to close their budget deficits. The intense battles over public-sector collective bargaining in Wisconsin and Ohio, for example, have been seen as conflicts over whether to reduce public-pension benefits for future retirees. Whether pension cutbacks are justified, however, depends crucially on whether existing benefits are excessively generous compared to those in the private sector. More broadly, policymakers cannot know if total compensation in the public sector—including salaries, benefits, and job security—is at an appropriate market level without a proper understanding of pension costs.
http://www.heritage.org/research/reports/2012/05/the-real-cost-of-public-pensions
jrod June 1, 2012 at 02:36 am
Not all public sector employees have generous benefits. They all have different contracts. Stop the "greedy union demand" blame game. go to a legislature meeting. Look at the county budgets online. Our county isnt in debt because of the line employees. They are tax payers too - and this struggling economy will suffer with hudreds of lay offs. Our gov is dysfunctional and theyve mismanaged the budget for yrs. Exec will never give up 6 figure appointees or management jobs. Nobody is ever held accountable. The cost of execs budget staff is outrageous - yet they hires private auditors. The gov created the free pharmacy. Unions had NOTHING to do with that. Its 3 illion a year. why wont the gov get rid of it? There was millions in "fake" money put into the budgets...of course we"re in debt. Not because of pensions or employee benefits. The state owes the county 42 million. It trickles down hill. We elected these people. With help of the block vote. Check out online how many tax exempt properties there are in Ramapo. Check out the Medicaid ratio's. We are highest in Nation for a reason. And 10 million was paid by the county back to the town of Ramapo for unpaid property taxes. Stop placing all the blame on county employees and unions. It's ignorant. find out the facts and then do something procative about it instead of posting comments. Some county employees did just that. And they were terminated.
Adam June 1, 2012 at 02:50 pm
First things first, let's not put this on the back of the civil servants....when those in the private sector were making 100k, 200k, and so on, civil servants were making 50-75k, giving up the higher salaries for the job security, benefits, and pension guarantees....now that people who were making 6 figures are no longer employed, it's on the backs of the civil servants to make it right??????/
Secondly, these politicians need to wake up and realize that no matter what, they're going to tax Rockland County into bankruptcy (See Orange County, California).....too many political agendas meeting in one place is explosive......what needs to happen is someone gets into office who is actually willing to make cuts where necessary, and stop the perverbial "75 dollar hammer and 200 dollar toilet seat" routine
Watchdog June 1, 2012 at 03:18 pm
The County is in the "service" business which means that the majority of their expenses are for salaries, benefits and pensions. When the private sector decided it could not afford these gilt edge health benefits, and went to 401K plans,, the public sector kept thesebenefits which are unsustainable. NYSIs still forecasting a return of 7.5% which is insane. Is there any reason why Senior citizens have to endure stock market losses in their 401k and at the same time reimburse public sector employees for stock market losses in their pension plans or pay large deductibles and co pays while many in the county have no co pays or deductibles. The greedy unions have to get real...but the will keep going until the county falls apart entirely.
jrod June 3, 2012 at 09:59 pm
Watchdog....do you have a job? First of all....county employees DO have co pays and deductables. Do your research before you spew off comments. This financial mess is not because of union employees. It is your own government officials that did this. Even with the 150 lay offs...no real money will be saved. These are not sufficient cuts. The union workers did not cause this county to fall apart. Many county employees DO contribute to their benefits - and the union is more than willing to concede to more....many employees called Execs office offering to take the same benefit he afforded himself - a 5% pay cut (after he gave himslef a fat raise last year). Union workers did not get a raise in over 2 years - theyre not asking for one now - and they would still take the pay cut. Since you have so much to say - why dont you go to Tuesday nights Legislature meeting and say it at the podium. Get all your questions answered where they count. And voice your opinions where it will count. Private sector will suffer from these lay offs also. 3 cents $100 and a review board watching ove this county gov sounded much better to me than 4% energy increase we're stuck with. Now you have no review board. Nothing will change. you're right about one thing - we're doomed. So move to that new home u bought. Laid off public workers cldnt afforrd a second home. Private sector mustve been good to you watchdog.
jrod June 3, 2012 at 10:13 pm
You're so right Adam...and if you look at the lay off list - there's people on it that make far less than 50K as well. The ones on it who make the most will retire comfortable...and sheriff's positions were picked up by Spring Valley Police. The average person doesnt realize that no money will be saved this way - and the county gov hasnt been able to make a decsion because they arent sure it will either. That's the question of the day that even the auditor couldnt answer. The sales tax increase of 3 cents per every $100 spent (for a only 3 yr period )wouldve possibly saved these jobs and allowed the county time to put a more effective plan in place. It also wldve brought in a review board who would hold the gov officials accountable for spending moving forward. Instead - we are now faced with an emergency - a bond rating drop and forced to pay 4% energy tax - which is far more than we wldve paid with the temp sales tax hike that wldve been shared w jersey shoppers too. And now comes the first wave of lay offs as well - not good for our failing economy. No review board either. How do you propose someone gets into office that will make cuts where necessary? Vanderhoef stays til next year. And he's not the only one w agendas. Too little too late. Bus loads of Rockland residents should be up in albany screaming about this right now.
Watchdog June 4, 2012 at 12:34 am
Clarkstown and Orangetown should secede from the County and leave all the leeches to fend for themselves.
Watchdog June 4, 2012 at 12:53 am
Jrod...Everywhere you go...from Greece to San Jose to Rockland there is one thing in common. The cost of public sector employees and their health care and pensions is bringing us all to bankruptcy. An elderly lady in my neighborhood had a blue tarp on her roof for over six months while she waited to get enough money to have her roof fixed while a Clarkstown cop a few doors down is putting up a $150,000 addition. In 2009, this cop made $165,000. The elderly widow has to pay his salary. Her home is falling apart. This cop couldn't care less. WALL STREET JOURNAL has an interesting article about San Jose and how the Mayor as to rein in the outrageous pensions, read it. Too bad we can't do the same.
Watchdog June 4, 2012 at 12:56 am
The only pension I get in the private sector is my 401k which returns close to zero unless I invest in the market and face losses while I have to reimburse Public Sector pensions from increases in my taxes. Heads I lose, tails I lose.
Watchdog June 4, 2012 at 12:58 am
THE UNIONS AND THE BLOC VOTE PUT IN THE POLITICIANS YOU SPEAK ABOUT. YOU ELECTED THEM, I DID NOT SO STOP CALLING THEM MY POLITICIANS.
jrod June 4, 2012 at 05:59 pm
Watchdog....Just because public employees belong to union - doesn't mean they all vote same. People vote for who they want... union did not support all Legislators. The bloc vote is why Legislature stays the same. I guarantee you that public pension fund probably has no money in it either. Again - cops get great benefits w outrageous salaries. Not the same for all public employees. Town employees just got 3% raises a month ago. County employees didnt - and arent asking for one. A lot of public employees are in the same spot financially as the elderly woman you speak of. Dont put them all into one category. The ones being laid off are not cops - not the ones with the 6 figure salaries. So there will be more people now with tarps on their homes - or no homes at all. Instead of the county employees paying taxes like you do and contributing to society - paying for benefits like a lot of them do now and all will do soon.... Medicaid costs will increase because these people have no choice once theyre laid off. Heads they lose - tails they lose too. If county laid off all those under 5 yrs employed - it would save in the future because those people arent vested yet. That's not what theyre doing. Exec just hired assistant to his assistant at 60K 3 wks ago. Deputy commissioner of mental health - there only 4 yrs - making close to 130k - will stay even tho he provided false info to county auditor. Mental helath did without deputy for many years in the past. Nothing will change.

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