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Local Government, Union Officials React to County Executive’s Budget Gap Closing Measures

Town Supervisors say proposals shift the costs back to the municipalities. Union officials argue that budget is being balanced at their members’ expense

 

Among the measures proposed on Thursday to close a $21 million budget gap for 2012 were three that would transfer the expenses to the towns. Clarkstown Town Supervisor Alex Gromack and Orangetown Supervisor Andy Stewart said this was the wrong approach for the Rockland County executive to take.

“His plan is I’ll just shift costs to anyone I can try,” said Gromack, adding that the theory that the cost of county government can be moved to towns and villages is absurd. “It is the whole purpose of county government to coordinate and provide services.”

“I looked at it and about half of those cost-saving measures are basically passing costs to the town,” said Orangetown Supervisor Andy Stewart. “It’s very bad thing for the towns.”

Vanderhoef’s announcement included three specific proposals that could potentially affect towns and villages.

Sheriff’s Intelligence Unit: The Sheriff’s Department will stop reimbursing towns and villages for their officers for the Intelligence Unit from July to December of this year. This will save $585,000.

Out of County community college chargeback: Currently, the County reimburses community colleges outside of Rockland for the non-resident tuition of Rockland students who attend there. Under State education law, Rockland can charge back this cost to towns, but never has. This chargeback would be $1.8 million in 2012.

Board of Elections chargeback: The $1.4 million revenue was included in the 2012 budget, but requires a resolution by the County Legislature to charge back towns and villages.

Stewart and Gromack were in agreement that the change in Intelligence Task Force funding would be a bad decision. Gromack said Vanderhoef was going back on his commitment to fund the Task Force.

 “He is personally jeopardizing the health, welfare and safety of the citizens of Rockland by closing one of the important law enforcement tools we have,” said Gromack. “Remember it’s a county task force.  If he’s going to defund it, he’s going to cancel it. He’s got some choices to make and he’s made a real bad one.”

“Honestly, we’re trying to protect ourselves,” said Stewart. “We were negotiating in good faith about one of the most important things, which was the narcotics and intelligence task force. We did a lot of work trying to reach reasonable terms with county. Now we find out they are wiping out the budget for the intelligence unit, which is a collaborative service which is important to the town.”

Gromack said Clarkstown would pull its officers from the Task Force if the town were not paid for their services. The officers would be reassigned to duties within the town.

 The idea of chargebacks for Rocklanders attending community colleges in other counties was also criticized.

“There is a lot that needs to be found out, in particular the question of college tuition,” said Stewart. “Nobody has provided us with any information about that.  There has been no real discussion of how much that costs.”

Gromack said the county executive should share the additional revenue that Rockland receives from out-of-county students attending Rockland Community College.

“If he wants Clarkstown to pay all these costs then he shouldn’t charge any county taxes to the residents of Clarkstown,” said Gromack.

The supervisor raised objections to the Board of Elections chargeback and raised questions about the costs and funding.

“But what does it mean to share or transfer the responsibilities for running the elections especially in a year with a lot of elections, more than usual,” asked Stewart? “Those programs have to function for democracy to work. The county has been running it. Are they going to charge us for it? Are we going to run it? Whose staff is going to do it? Or will they give us a bill and how do we know how much it really costs and who is really in control of it?”

Gromack noted the Board of Elections receives state and federal money. He questioned what would happen to that and pointed out that it is the County Board of Elections.

Stewart pointed out the proposals must be discussed and scrutinized before anything comes of them.

“These are proposals, but none of them can become reality without county legislature involved,” he said. There is not a great history of cooperation (between the county executive and legislature). There is a lot of disfunctionality in that relationship.”

Union Officials Concerned For Rank And File 

The contingency plan included a notation that $18 million in salary savings is being currently negotiated but is not included as a cost savings for 2012.

PT Thomas, president of the Rockland County Unit of , said the budget cannot be balanced on the backs of county employees. He said of the county’s 2,200 employees, 1800 are CSEA members.

“He knew that that $18 million would never come from union concessions,” said Thomas. “We're in the negotiating process. I offered to take no increase, 0 percent for 2011 and 2012. They are not satisfied with that. They want us to give back more."

Southern Regional CSEA President Billy Riccaldo, also a county employee like Thomas, said there are nine unions whose members work for the county.

“We have always done our share with our contracts,” said Riccaldo. “We'll help them. We will work with the county executive, we will work with the county legislative chair, but we expect to be treated fair and just and the county has always listened to our issues."

gromack..what about enforcing the trash can sticker laws???????in clarlsclownville every homeowner HAS TO PAY FOR ANY TRASH CAN over the one alloted to them.."YOU HAVE A STICKER LAW CORRECT? MANY MANY HOMES HAVE 2 OR 3 OR MORE GARBAGE CANS "WITHOUT" stickers!!!! a lot of lost revenue!!!! your office has been called many times about it...and you all must be deaf on maple ave!!!!!!so easy to enforce..duh!!!!if sticker is on it you collect it!!!!!no sticker leave it there....GUESS WHAT...the homeowner may just may drive down to maple ave...and purchase a few more!!!! hint hint..more revenue!!! start running the place with a sense of looking for revenue....take off your sunglasses....
you allow a clerk of the works to hire his kid for a large amount of money...but you are punishing all the law abiding homeowners who buy more than one sticker....so typical of this clowntown
what is sad....is that in clownsville their was a 12.5% raise given..hows that for union justice???if I was a county employee I would be very upset...rockland county is one house.....just amazing that in certain rooms of the house somelive like kings and queens and others in the basement!!!!!! and if pictures I have seen of some in charge..too many are always in the dining room!!!!!!!
F*** May 18, 2012 at 01:35 PM
How about we look to clean up the welfare state of Ramapo? Zugibe made a big noise a while back about a tiny handful of cheats. Pick the neighborhoods with the highest welfare rolls and do an audit.
Pat May 18, 2012 at 02:08 PM
Wait a second now, District Attorney is an elected position right? An audit of New Square is not gonna happen, sad but true. What is really sad is that the New Square residents are not the majority by any means, they simply just vote as one and let others apathy do the rest.
Rant123 May 18, 2012 at 02:24 PM
This article doesn't even mention trash can stickers. The author fails to understand that the more garbage that needs to be taken away, the more work it is for the garbage carter, the more they get paid.
F*** May 18, 2012 at 03:10 PM
If you want any evidence of the "us vs them" attitude of the ultra orthodox, open this link from the Monseyscoop.com regarding the East Ramapo BOE elections. http://www.monseyscoop.com/2012/05/monsey-residents-education-taxes-will-either-increase-or-decrease-your-vote-matters.html
stephany May 18, 2012 at 04:59 PM
The clarkstown police are getting the 2.5% raise for each of the next 5 years, but that is not 12.5% in 5 years it is more like 13.15%. this is on top of the last 3 years increases of 3.4%,3.4% and 2.5%
Clarkstown life May 18, 2012 at 07:59 PM
Hey howie ......give it a rest already.....
Gregg May 19, 2012 at 12:14 AM
Jealousy
John Fitzy May 19, 2012 at 12:54 AM
hey dopey $$$$$$$$$$$$ ..... how about changing your clownsville adjective because we know who you are and where you live..... what a stiff you are.
John Fitzy May 19, 2012 at 12:56 AM
good for them.... they are smart and many of you moronic bloggers should GET SMART
John Fitzy2 May 19, 2012 at 01:04 AM
hey I think I'll toss my garbabe onto $$$$$$$$$$$$'s lawn!! Brilliant!!
John Fitzy2 May 19, 2012 at 01:06 AM
Now you're talkin'!! That place is truly a welfare state.... I can't believe that I read this a minute ago http://www.subvertednation.net/jews-suck-baby-penises/ which really shows what they're capable of doing.
Brian Goudie May 19, 2012 at 11:07 AM
"Union officials argue that budget is being balanced at their members’ expense." Ya think? So what!
MA May 20, 2012 at 02:38 AM
I am constanty perplexed at why there is such vehemence towards the county employees. They are working class/middle class folks like the majority of us. The deficit was not caused by them but by the "execs" just like in any company. Vanderhoef is the source of this fiscal debacle that Rockland County is knee-deep in, be outraged and vent towards him. Didn't he get reelected after a shortfall in the last election? What did those of you who voted for him expect going forward? He took a raise last year despite the economy and full knowledge of the budget to come. Let's not be angry with the employees who work in jobs many of you would never want. They seek job security with every contract negotiation which is what all of us desire. Historically, unions set a precedent. If those employees giveback, so do the rest of us. Don't be mad at them because they are organized and stand as one, asking only for what is deserved. Why don't any of you ask if the County Executive and the Department heads pay into their benefits? Perhaps if more of us stood together against the likes of Vanderhoef and his cronies, we wouldn't find ourselves in this quagmire.
Roger Pellegrini May 21, 2012 at 09:47 AM
There is nothing complicated about it. The general public is angry because: 1) the taxpayer is picking up the tab for too many government jobs held by employees who are protected and act indifferent to the public. 2) Collective bargaining with employers whom they have the power to elect has led to union salaries and benefits that are not comparable to those in the private sector. So when unions arguing that a budget is being balanced at the their expense, the answer is, 'Of course it is.."
HABIBHASAN-An American Storyteller May 22, 2012 at 12:12 AM
Really! "reacting" ? Who is reacting? The Unions! Do you have to hide something? . . . .At least the County Executive is being transparent about his Proposal! I am sure The Current Govornor [until last time I checked] will approve! That what The State is doing? Why no one question the Govornor or have similar sentitment for him as [they are expressing] for The Rockland County Executive! Ask! May I . . . . . ? What Say You Bosses? This is 21st Century America! Now We have Cameras on Delaware River! You know what I am taking about! "Tapish!" Tapish! HABIBHASAN - An American Storyteller

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