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{UPDATE} New Bridge Lifespan, Tolls Financing Questioned

Clarkstown residents and officials got the opportunity to ask for specifics on the new Tappan Zee Bridge Project

 

Clarkstown Town Board members and residents heard the most recent presentation on the plans for the new Tappan Zee Bridge at Tuesday night’s town board meeting. Their line of questioning concerned the lifespan of the new bridge, higher tolls and the financing plan for the new span.

Brian Conybeare, the governor’s special advisor for the “New New York Bridge,” told the 20 or so people in attendance that the presentation they received had been updated within the past week.  He reviewed the process for selecting the contractor; described features of the bridge discussed the creation of a Rockland Outreach Center in Nyack and schedule for the start of work on the bridge.

One resident asked about plans to shift all traffic off the current bridge to the northern span when it is completed in 2016.  Conybeare told him the northern span would be wider than the existing bridge at 96 feet.

“It will be wider and smoother than the current Tappan Zee Bridge,” said Conybeare.

Councilwoman Stephanie Hausner wanted to know why the new construction was given a 100-year lifetime when many existing bridges are a lot older than that and still in relatively good condition.

Conybeare noted the bridge is actually expected to be in use for 100 years without major structural repairs. It will require regular maintenance but nothing along the lines of the major repair work the Tappan Zee Bridge has undergone in recent years. It could last 150 or more years. 

“The engineers have told me it will last a minimum of 150 years,” he said.

When someone asked if the toll was actually going to be $14 as widely speculated, Conybeare replied the price of the toll will depend upon how much money the state gets from U.S. Department of Transportation for the bridge. The state has applied for up to $2 billion in a long term, low interest loan from the federal government’s Transportation Infrastructure Finance and Innovation Act (TIFIA). 

“The more money we get out of that TIFIA program the lower the tolls will be,” said Conybeare. 

He said the state hopes to find out soon how much money it will receive but could not provide a date. However, he said no final determination has been made regarding any interim toll hike. Gov. Cuomo has called for a Toll Financing Task Force which will review the toll issue as one of its responsiblities. The Task Force will be created in the next few months.

When Orrin Getz of New City asked about a financial plan for the bridge and when that would be finalized, Conybeare said that also was dependent upon the amount of the TIFIA loan.

Nyack Village Trustee Marie Lorenzini inquired about how the plans would assure that traffic would move “cleaner and swifter” than it does now. Conybeare said there will be four lanes for vehicles to move onto and off the bridge and that a truck-climbing lane was being investigated. 

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WGMom May 20, 2013 at 09:10 am
It's entirely true that every professional has out-of-pocket expenses. But as someone who worked asRead More a corporate trainer, I can guarantee you I NEVER had to pay out of pocket expenses for supplies to teach classes. Every piece of paper, supply, and even snacks for the participants were fully covered expenses. If I had to spend out of pocket money to procure supplies, I could submit for a reimbursement, and receive it, no questions asked. I am now in school to become a high school teacher and I can see the stark difference in how the education of folks in a corporate environment is incredibly different, and privileged, than the public school environment. I've sat through numerous classes in the Clarkstown and Ramapo districts, doing observations required for my education certification, and while Clarkstown certainly benefits from certain advantages, the shabbiness of being a public school is still there. Furniture, such as teacher desks, that looks like it was purchased in a garage sale 30 years ago... faculty bathrooms that are dark and dingy, nearly crumbling, and sorely in need of updating. Etc. The public expects teachers to have professional training, act professionally, but they lack sometimes basic resources and are expected to function in an environment that feels more like a dungeon than an institution of learning. The citizens of Clarkstown, if they could get a tour of some of the facilities they are expecting children to learn in, and teachers to teach in, would be very surprised. We do supply some great technology, but then we put it in classrooms with windows that won't stay closed when it's windy, as one example. I spent most of my time in South, which is the best of the bunch, facilities-wise. Clarkstown North is a mess, Woodglen's woods are littered with fallen trees no one's cleaned up after Sandy, Laurel Plains had to be shuttered thanks to that whole foul stench... the district is in a situation where there are major capital improvements that are going to be needed. Buildings are aging, and it seems it's only the most basic of upkeep that happens. The district can't even fix the roofs of the buildings without applying for a state grant.
Heywood Jablohme May 18, 2013 at 07:17 am
What professional doesn't spend $500 per year on out of pocket expenses related to their jobs?Read More Staples offering 10% (or 5 in some cases) is hardly an example of the community getting involved. Thankfully, there are other examples of the community and PTA's getting involved and providing needed services. Clarkstown and surrounding areas hardly have substantial unmet needs in their classroom, thankfully.
Truth4all May 16, 2013 at 11:37 am
I guess better late than never. LaCorte is serving his 4th year as Mayor and was Trustee for I thinkRead More 4 years before that. This year is the only time he has brought the idea to the village about participating in this program. He is motivated by the opportunity of getting positive press for his County Executive campaign. The village should have been involved in this program ( as well as the Americorps program) long before this. On a positive note, hopefully the Village will continue this worthwhile partnership for many years to come.
Sunny May 16, 2013 at 03:50 pm
Is there an article on patch about it? I am unable to find except on lohud.com
Green Farmer May 15, 2013 at 08:23 pm
Finally!!
b May 15, 2013 at 07:31 pm
Thank God. It's been a long time coming. Finally someone has paid attention.!!! That man has gotRead More to go.
Watchdog May 16, 2013 at 04:37 pm
George, don't you have enough to do straightening out the affairs of Clarkstown. Overtime in theRead More Police Department is rampant and the Town Attorney is out of control. As Tom Nimick says, we need an outside auditor for that operation since taxpayers were abused with the hiring of a political operative Jay Savino who I understand is singing like a canary. Get on the right side George before the FBI comes a lookin" I hear that the Gromack war chest is the first place they are looking for clues. Do the right thing George or you will get trampled with the rest of them.
Tom Nimick May 15, 2013 at 11:12 pm
Congratulations, George. Now about your other responsibilities as a member of the Town Board withRead More primary oversight over budget and expenditures: Won't you be the one to propose the needed audit of the Office of Town Attorney? You know the problems exist - likely you know more about the problems than I do. It is sad to see you silent in the face of the abuse of patronage. When will we hear your voice on it?
Teacher May 16, 2013 at 07:24 am
The new format is attractive but it is hard to find the comments that go with stories.