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Public Speaks Out Against Proposed Budget At Legislature Meeting

The legislature held a public hearing on the proposed 2013 budget

 

It was about a year ago when Robyn Richi found herself in a similar position to the one she was in Tuesday night.

On Tuesday, an emotional Richi stood in front of the Rockland County Legislature pleading with them to not eliminate her job working security at the Summit Park Hospital in Pomona.

“We’ve really got to stop meeting like this,” Richi said to the legislators.

For the second straight year, Richi’s job was eliminated in a proposed budget. Last year, when the legislators adopted an altered budget, her job was saved. To find out if the legislators will save her job again, Richi will have to wait until the legislature’s Dec. 4 meeting, when they vote to approve the budget proposed by the county executive, or instead adopt a budget with changes.

On Tuesday, the legislature held a public hearing on the 2013 proposed budget. Richi was one of 15 people to speak during the public hearing, and said she wasn’t speaking just for her own sake. She felt that as a supervisor, she had to speak out for the other 18 people in her department.

“I think we do a great job,” she said. “I’m really proud of our guys.”

She told the legislators that they wouldn’t just be hurting the 19 people in her department, but 19 families as well.

“Sometimes it’s not a political thing,” she said. “It’s just the right thing.”

Richi, like many others who spoke, felt the layoffs in the proposed budget are for budgetary reasons. Layoffs for budgetary reasons are not allowed according to the new Rockland County CSEA contract signed earlier this year for the duration of the agreement, which runs through Dec. 31, 2013.

Laurie Messinger, of the health department, also felt the layoffs were for budgetary reasons, calling the layoffs a “clear breach of the CSEA contract.”

Messinger runs the breastfeeding and child injury prevention programs, as well as assists with other programs. She said cutting departments that run programs that can educate residents, especially younger residents, about healthy and safe ways to live doesn’t add up.

“Prevention saves money by keeping people healthy,” she said.

Messinger added that the talk of layoffs in recent years has left employees dejected.

“The morale of county employees is at an all-time low,” she said. “We’re not the cause of the county’s fiscal problems, but the burden is being placed on our shoulders.”

That was a point Rockland County CSEA President P.T. Thomas touched on quite a bit during his speech at the public hearing. Thomas also offered some advice on creating the budget for the county.

“I can create this budget in Excel in two weeks and with our advanced program like PeopleSoft, for which we spent a lot of money, the county should be able to create this budget in two days with so many people working on this,” he said.

Thomas said the county operated without a county executive for many years, so why not eliminate the Office of the County Executive? He also said that Westchester has a population of nearly a million people and Rockland’s population is a little more than 315,000 people, according to the most recent Census. Yet, both counties have 17 legislators. Thomas said Rockland’s number of legislators should be cut to six. He added he would cut down the number of commissioners and managers in the Department of Health and Budget Department.

“If you want to save money, abolish the Office of the County Executive, bring down the number of legislators to six and outsource tourism to Priceline or Travelocity and let PeopleSoft do the budget,” he said. “Let one commissioner manage the Departments of Health, Mental Health and Hospitals, and let five managers do other administrative works of these departments.”

CSEA members handed out yellow CSEA t-shirts to people on their way into the meeting. The shirts read: “People over profit and politics.”

CSEA Southern Region President, Billy Riccaldo also spoke during the public hearing, saying that during the recent storm he received a call telling him one department of three people went into Summit Park on their own time to make sure the residents had clean linen.

“No manager, no commissioner, nobody told them to do that,” he said. “They did that because they love those residents and what they do.”

He added that department is one being cut in the proposed budget. He also admonished the current administration.

“It’s really a shame what’s going on here, and who’s paying for it? The employees, the residents and everybody in the county,” he said.

Rockland Business Association President Al Samuels said his organization commissioned Hudson Valley Pattern For Progress, which he called one of the most respected think tanks in the state, to write a white paper on the county’s fiscal issues. He read the opening paragraphs of the introduction, which stated that the county legislators are the ones who will make the decisions to either help Rockland out of the financial crisis or dig the county in deeper.

“The proposed 2013 budget represents a direly needed reality check,” the paper read. “However, we must note that the county legislature during the past several years has abdicated much of its oversight and responsibility. The county executive may have offered inaccurate revenue and spending projections, but the county legislators almost universally adopted those projections without change.”

Samuels said he has faith in the county legislators.

“It’s time for the county legislature to vote for the county of Rockland, for the entity that is Rockland County,” he said. “If Rockland doesn’t survive, no component of Rockland can.”

Andromachos November 21, 2012 at 12:45 PM
People over profit? Is the CSEA and its leadership so ignorant to believe that the County is operating in a profit making venture? Government does not make a profit. Government spends money taxed (some would say extorted from) the taxpayers. This is not a choice of profit over people, it is a choice of the people at the butt end of the tax collector's gun and those at the barrel end of it. Every dollar paid to a CSEA government workers is a dollar out of the mouth of the taxpayers families. So why is it to the benefit of a taxpayer who is not a government employee, to save the CSEA employee's family?.
Andromachos November 21, 2012 at 12:48 PM
BTW, I am not anti union or anti CSEA. I just find this to be a false and misleading argument.
Watchdog November 21, 2012 at 12:57 PM
Time for Clarkstown and Orangetown to secede From the County.
steve November 21, 2012 at 01:03 PM
It is time to put people first, but it is also time for Rockland to step up and deal with the overspending,pensions,patronage & entitlements. It is time to for the politicians to do what they were elected to do. Represent the people. It is time to stop the Tax increases, so normal people can afford to live in Rockland. If they cannot property values will crash and then what will happen. They will have raise the taxes or face bankruptcy and nobody will win
Pat Godfrey November 21, 2012 at 01:11 PM
Hey people we do not have the money. The county is broke. They are more than broke they are in debt, they spend more than they have. Politicians over spend and over promise so they get re-elected. The worst part of that is they use tax payer money to get themselves re-elected. That said cuts are needed. There is no way around it. That means jobs and programs and services. That's the reality, and the jobs that are lowest on the totem pole will get cut 1st. The union members suggested cutting the county executive position and several legislative seats. Good luck with that,if you think they are going to cut their own jobs then I have a bridge to sell you (it would be great if it happened though). The legislature raised taxes last year and they will probably raise it this year, the budget the last 2 years according to Vanderhoef was 818 million dollars. He did not cut 1 dollar of it. What he did was not allow it to grow for 1 year, he said that was a great accomplishment. In a 818 million dollar budget if you cannot find any thing you can cut you are just playing games. That's what the legislature is doing cutting as little as possible. They are not trying to balance or reduce the budget. Why? Next year they are going to raise taxes again.
michael November 21, 2012 at 01:41 PM
I agree with with this argument get rid of the county executive office and half the legislatures also did the county really need another crew to go around main street and water plants? This county needs to be fixed before its to late and we shouldn't leave it up to the politians cause it will never be done and debt and taxes will continue to go up.
joe martino November 21, 2012 at 03:30 PM
How is it that you can't get rid of a CSEA employee for budgetary reasons?? That is unreal! Who is responsible for negotiating these Union contracts?? How is it that Union personnel can work 20 years and retire at full salary and benefits for life and take out more money from the system then they put in?? Again who is responsible for negotiating these contracts - find that person(s) and get rid of them (he/she probably has a clause in his/her contract that say he can't be fired for stupidity!!).
Pat Godfrey November 21, 2012 at 08:04 PM
In thinking about this further and looking big picture it is a lost cause as long as democrats run the county. They believe in bigger government. They do not care if we have the money or not, as we have all seen in the last few years of tax increases. This January federally our taxes will go up ( democrat). Our state government will raise taxes thru mandates handed down to the counties in NYS (democrat governor, veto proof state legislature, something like 110 to 40 democrat) (the highest taxed state in all of USA). Rockland county legislature like 12 to 3 democrat. Democrats believe in big government and they are not going to growing government and raising taxes. About Rockland we are the top 5 taxed county in the state, even the times and Gannett newspapers do stories on how our police and government workers make. So let's get to the root of the issue and it is the democrat party, That is why our taxes are high and getting higher every year.
Concerned Citizen November 21, 2012 at 11:18 PM
You just showed your hand. Obviously you have a political agenda and you just dicredited yourself and everything you just said. Our County Executive who has been in office for almost 20 years is a Republican with many political appointees, free cars and the biggest pension of all! Probably 4 times more than the average public employee. One more thing, all county employees pay taxes, shop at the local stores and answer the call when there are emergencies. Where were you during hurricane Sandy? Ask a public employee, they were working saving lives and helping anyone who needed it.
Watchdog November 22, 2012 at 12:50 AM
Vanderhoef. Is equally responsible. However by most accounts, he is more a democrat than a Republican and under the thumb of Vinny Reda, who frequently supports Democrats. WE essentially have a one party system in Rockland. Democrats primarily from N. Rockland, control the purse strings with support from BLOC voters and unions,large beneficiaries of theCounty's largesse.This has been the case since the inception of County government with John Grant. Only pushback against the Phony budgets Has been from republicans, primarily. Ed Day.
workerbee November 23, 2012 at 05:21 PM
County employees have not had a raise in three years and have given back ten days pay, five in 2012 and five in 2013, which if you believe they will ever get back I have a bridge to sell you. They are still being laid off and have had significant increases in work load. The County employee has always made less then the private sector because they received good benefits as a trade off. County employees are your neighbors, we PAY THE TAXES TOO. We did not cause the deficits and are paying for them just like you are. Find someone else to blame for your taxes, like the politicians in charge of raising them and putting their buddies in high payoing management positions, not the worker bees.

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