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James R April 10, 2014 at 08:00 am
What ever happened to the separation of "church and state"?
bruce stokes April 10, 2014 at 08:01 am
Gov. cumo , will not intervene , It all comes down to the voting block . Politicians won'tRead More jeopardize their reelection . For the good of the people .
Charles Clewsow April 10, 2014 at 08:04 am
"James R What ever happened to the separation of "church and state"?"Read More Apparently it does not apply to certain ultra orthodox synagogues
Karen Magee. Photo credit: Jessica Bakeman, CapitalNewYork.com
New York Patriot April 8, 2014 at 08:13 pm
Common Core is similar to Obamacare. Both are examples of Liberal-sponsored "big governmentRead More knows best" ideology shifts that Americans are just beginning to wise up to and oppose. And, as stated by several above, the only reason this new union head is opposed to Common Core is to get rid of the teacher evaluations. When the teachers union is done "opposing" Common Core, it will be essentially unchanged but for the teacher evals which will change dramatically or disappear.
Gloria R. April 8, 2014 at 08:26 pm
the only reason this new union head is opposed to Common Core is to get rid of the teacherRead More evaluations. and of course to get elected
Theresa Flora April 9, 2014 at 07:25 pm
Or maybe... http://perdidostreetschool.blogspot.com/2014/04/nysut-president-magee-strikes.html
Watchdog March 11, 2014 at 08:41 am
Resume is incomplete. A month after he left office after 20 years Rockland County had just $42 ,000Read More in cash, unable to pay its bills until partially bailed out by a bond offering which still leaves us $30 million in the red. By ALL ACCOUNTS. The triumvirate of Vanderhoef, Cornell and Schoenberger was a DISASTER for Rockland County.
Mad Dog March 11, 2014 at 10:21 am
How is this man qualified to run this so called "institute"? His idea of leadership inRead More the County was to bend over for the Monsey, New Square crowd and give them what they wanted just to get elected and re-elected time and again. How is that leadership? Other than drive the county towards financial Armageddon what did he actually achieve in Rockland county? The only thing I can think of is Haverstraw Bay County Park (a very nice park by the way). And even there if you hit the place on the wrong day you have to turn around and leave because of all the Hasidic that over-run the place. People can preach tolerance and some would say my comments are intolerant but there are no group of people as rude and intolerant as those people are.
Watchdog March 11, 2014 at 08:03 pm
The real question is....why would any organization want a failed executive to run theirRead More organization?
New York State Education Commissioner Dr. John King fielded angry questions and comments at a Common Core forum on Long Island in 2013.
NYCLU LHV March 19, 2014 at 03:44 pm
We will be holding a free public forum on our students' right to learn. Among the topics to beRead More discussed will be about the Common Core. Please join us at the Greenburgh Public Library on March 25 at 6:30 PM. Thank you, lowerhudsonvalley@nyclu.org
Commack Resident March 21, 2014 at 11:02 am
My son is a top student in 4th grade. He easily passed the new Common Core State ELA and Math testsRead More last year. This year, he is NOT taking them. I have no doubt he would "pass" again, but, really, is there any real value to passing a meaningless test? He consistently earns top scores on all classroom exams. He reads at an 8th grade level. He has nothing to prove, and I will not allow my 9 year old child to sit through more than 12 hours of tests to prove what we already know...he can read, write and do math at, at least, a 4th grade level. It is not kids like my son that I am concerned about. Other children are the ones hurt most by these tests. Like the little boy we know, who is one of the best math students in his grade, yet gets pulled from the classroom to attend mandatory remedial math instruction because of poor performance on last year's state tests. No one- not his parents, his teacher, or the remedial instructor-thinks this boy needs remedial instruction. Yet, it is mandatory because of a poorly written, ambiguous exam, that failed to test the concepts that the children were taught in the classroom. Many, many students are in similar situations. I am not against standardized tests in general. I allowed my son to take them last year and he performed well. Now that I realize how utterly meaningless the state tests are in their current form, and also just how many hours these poor little children are forced to sit through to take them, I am vehemently opposed to them. We have notified the school, in advance, of our decision to refuse the tests this year. I urge all parents to do the same. We will continue to refuse the tests every year, until the subject matter being tested actually has a real relationship to what the kids are being taught in the classroom, and until the 12 hour-long evaluation is reduced to a more reasonable length, one that 8 and 9 year olds can actually be expected to sit still and concentrate for.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:04 pm
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Anne Oakley February 25, 2014 at 08:28 pm
Wishing you the best of luck in all you do!
Mike Smith February 26, 2014 at 10:56 am
Maybe Pearl River can lure him out of his retirement. He would be a tremendous improvement overRead More Morgano
Protesters stand outside of the News 12 studio in Woodbury on Monday to demand Gov. Andrew Cuomo to fix or scrap the controversial new Common Core curriculum. Credit: Monica Gleberman
Aidan April 13, 2014 at 05:56 am
Just trying to educate you … over and over again.
David April 13, 2014 at 02:18 pm
@Elsie I'll grant that it's a hard question for second grade. Students can show divisibility byRead More showing 12 being split into 4 equal parts, and again into 6 equal parts, with a diagram, but I think few second graders would get this right. Any second grader who gets this right is showing unusual mathematical talent, or at least unusual advancement in meeting common core standards. Don't we want to allow such unusual talent to be recognized? Especially in elementary grades these days, there seems so little opportunity for it these days.
Elsie April 18, 2014 at 04:23 pm
@David -- Talent should be recognized by differentiating instruction. Those 2nd graders who can doRead More this should, those who can't should be taught at a level that is more developmentally appropriate for them. There is very little room for enriching those students who should be or helping those students who need it using the Engage NY Modules. I am not a teacher but I have looked at the NY modules and the CC standards. I believe that teachers can address CC standards without the developmental inappropriateness of the NY requirements.
Lanning Taliaferro (Editor) February 9, 2014 at 07:04 am
Phil and Michael—Patch is, above all, a community platform, with information flowing onto itRead More 24/7 (like Dan's blog post, uploaded at 1:17AM!). Nobody's reading it all the time. We will absolutely draw people's attention to posts and conversations they might have missed. Dan—Thanks for your comment and for drawing my attention to your blog post! I'm sorry I missed it on the 6th. Patch is going through a major transition, and we're working on improving the platform to make it easier for members of the community to make meaningful contributions and to see the contributions of others. Dan, Michael—Meanwhile, if you see something disappearing too fast, please let me know at lanning.taliaferro@patch.com and I can re-feature it. BJ—Robin Traum is a terrific reporter and was a great Patch editor. We are no longer staffed in a way to provide the level of hyperlocal coverage you are used to. With fewer editors we will be running Patch sites differently. Essays like Dan's (http://newcity.patch.com/groups/dan-weisbergs-blog/p/the-bond-vote-and-the-aftermath) ruminating on the (now 243) comments on my article about the bond vote results are one of the things that make Patch a good community resource. The coming improvements will strengthen it. Thank you for your concern.
karen kasman February 9, 2014 at 09:35 am
Panning, can you forward a request to Patch management asking that posters need to log on with theirRead More Facebook Account? The anonymous blogging is destructive and threatening at times.
Lanning Taliaferro (Editor) February 9, 2014 at 12:40 pm
Karen - I certainly will.
AnnieRose February 8, 2014 at 06:26 pm
I'm curious ...when a poster uses aliases to comment, does the poster use various props to stay inRead More character..for instance, A baseball hat , a different tee shirt, a pair of pantyhose?
Really Weird Kid February 9, 2014 at 09:58 am
Robert, you can't sue the Patch because someone uses your initials. No law has been broken, youRead More sound like a baby. Maybe you take this blogging a bit too seriously. People don't post using their real names so they can hide. Congers240, I would guess he has something to do with Congers Auto Spa at 240 Congers Road. You accuse posters of being people you now have a problem with. Slow your roll and realign your perspective on what is said and who is saying it. Like my name here, it's meant as a joke, using your initials. I don't think anyone thinks this is you (-; enjoy your day
Myles P February 9, 2014 at 11:00 am
Oh this gets better every day!! The same guy who rips apart a bunch of politicians for suing is nowRead More looking to sue bc someone is blogging responses to him!!! You can't make this stuff up. I hope he realizes how many people actually have screen shots, Facebook posts, messages and emails where he doesn't look like the upstanding citizen he claims to be. Good luck with the lawsuit, you will need it!!
Parents packed a Port Chester auditorium in October 2013 to protest the Common Core standards and tests.
Robert Wingate March 3, 2014 at 07:53 pm
I have put two children through high school in several Westchester school districts, as well asRead More having lived in Colorado where far few dollars were allocated for public education, to the great detriment of the systems and students in that state. I think the majority of the teachers our children have studied with, in both places, have been conscientious, intelligent and committed educators, and New York in particular has been blessed by high quality teaching in many of its schools. I think the schools could probably do a decent job working with the Common Core's emphasis on more rigorous thinking, if given the sufficient level of resources needed to train and support teachers in the course of the rollout. I do not have the sense that our state, with its often penny-wise and pound-foolish attitude toward holding back resources from school districts in need, such as by imposing a stifling property tax cap, has made this commitment in full, even as it has enforced the standardized evaluation measures that come with the curriculum. But I think local school districts are trying to catch up to the curriculum's demands. I wish them luck.
Harold1968 March 4, 2014 at 10:17 am
Robert, Taxpayers have been throwing money at the education system for decades while being told byRead More the teachers union to "think of the children!". Ironically the more we give the teachers the worse our children do compared to the rest of the world. Taypayers are done with this charade. The tax cap is the only sanity in the county with the highest property taxes in America.
Aidan April 11, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Added fencing around Congers Elementary School
Robert Ward Kurkela January 30, 2014 at 10:56 pm
Here are some snippets to watch: Mr. Aglialoro moves agenda item #1.08 Discussion on Student Data toRead More #1.05 Comments from the floor on agenda items 6:40 Mr. Malgieri states: "People from the audience may want to comment on that before we have our presentation." (Audience members can be heard asking about this) Mr. Malgieri then asks: "You want them to have the information before they comment?" Mr. Aglialoro: "Yes, yes, that was the point." 14:23 After Mr. Sobel's presentation, Mr. Malgieri questions Mr. Sobel about the FERPA Law. He Lists the people who are able to access the data, including a volunteer in the school. 16:03 Crowd applauds Mr. Malgieri when he finishes. Agenda Item #1.08 (now #1.05) Discussion on Student Data Type: Information, Discussion 0:00 - 32:00 RTTT Discussion (NOT ACTION/VOTE) Mr. Malgieri states: "I agree with you Chris. Let's make a motion." Mr. Conti states: "I thought this was informational only?" Mr. Malgieri states: "We can make a motion." Mr Malgieri states: "Make the motion" 1:16:00 A woman is about to speak about RTTT when someone from the back of the auditorium challenges Mike Aglialoro. Who is this? Agenda Item #1.09 Discussion on Congers Elementary Type: Information, Discussion (NOT ACTION/VOTE)1:27:50 "Discussion on Congers Elementary" begins 1:48:00 Diane Hoeneveld states "I don't want to divide the community" There is one Board member noticeably absent on the podium · 1:53:00 - 1:57:00 South Student Representative Jennifer Hopkins is speaking and is then heckled
Robert Ward Kurkela January 30, 2014 at 11:15 pm
CSD DISTRICT POLICY RESPONSIBILITIES OF SCHOOL BOARD MEMBERS 8220 Each school board member,Read More operating under high ethical standards: 3. transacts school board business only in regular sessions: all official school board business should be transacted only at official meetings of the board and only with the concurrence of a majority of the board 4. represents the entire community to the best of his or her ability: any action by a board member should be in the best interest of the entire community in the judgment of the board member 5. performs official duties as an individual trustee only in accordance with direction from the board: the work of the board is a collective effort under the law and individual board members have no individual authority except as delegated by the board 9. recognizes the rights of all board members: D. each board member will maintain confidentiality of executive session information Policy adopted: March 14, 1983 Clarkstown Central School District amended: January 28, 1991
Speaking Out January 31, 2014 at 12:26 pm
This is a completely emotional issue for 1 community with no rational behind any of their issues.Read More What I know to be FACT is: no state aid, $26/year if my house is assessed at $140k, which by the way it is higher, enough room in other buildings to accommodate these 200 children, a bus ride which is closer than going to Middle school, btw if Congers residents don't realize this, your children go across the causeway for Middle School and High School, a savings of $1.25mm which in turn will save other programs in this District. I will be voting NO simply for what the facts are...declining enrollment and NO tax increase!! To ask for guarantees is just simply ridiculous....
Congers Elementary School
Overtaxed February 4, 2014 at 12:07 pm
Taxes... that has been my point all along. I think that they had a very valid argument withoutRead More misinformation. I did not think it was necessary to put out all the BS. From your home values going down 29%, to the vast conspiracy to close the school, kids being on the bus unsafe distances, etc. I dont understand why they only put flyers in Congers and closed facebook groups. I truly believe they hurt their cause. But I guess time will tell.
Taxestoohigh February 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm
They can't control themselves it seems. A woman posted in the Congers Elementary School FacebookRead More group that the district changed locations for the bond vote. It's been posted for weeks that Congers residents vote at Lakewood Elementary. Where did she expect to vote, at Congers? I am laughing at these posts.
One love February 6, 2014 at 06:00 pm
@both Taxestoohigh and Overtaxed...guess time told. It seems that we didn't hurt our cause right? ItRead More passed. I'm sorry to disappoint. And the best part? The rest of Clarkstown (not just congers) pushed it to a victory. I pray that I can be involved in the next bond vote. It will be epic.
School Board President Mike Aglialoro spoke about committee recommendations to reduce the budget.
Rockland Resident January 25, 2014 at 05:17 pm
I'm not sure wheeler that number comes from. However we simply can't afford what we are spending. WeRead More are spending more than we are bringing in. And we pay enough taxes. Cuts are needed.
Rockland Resident January 25, 2014 at 05:18 pm
That was supposed to be "where" not "wheeler".
Clarkstown Dad January 25, 2014 at 07:22 pm
Annie ... Congratulations and as indicated before we will see if financial responsibility or emotionRead More wins out. Let the public decide. Antonia .... so you feel its more important to lay off more teachers than to close a building to achieve the financial goal. If I worked in the district I sure hope the Board/Super do not feel that way. Layoffs appear to be inevitable but I would rather they be minimized ....... playing with people's livelihood is a serious matter ...... I would lean more towards better class sizes in fewer schools/buildings . BTW if you had a clue about what Mike has personally done for this district including the money he has personally spent you would be embarrassed so I guess you haven't done enough research.
Clarkstown School Superintendent Dr. Morton explains what happens after the bond vote.
Speaking Out January 27, 2014 at 02:33 pm
Okay again I will state...wanted a bond...bond put up...not the bond that was desired. Wanted aRead More plan....no plan but Dr. Morton's recommendation (in essence his plan) for what he will bring to the Board in either scenario, if bond passes or bond fails.....we are where we are...so let's see what the results are with this bond and what this Board decides to do from there...it truly does seem emotional many stomping around because they did not get what they want. Again it comes down to capacity and space in our other buildings...no aid...no plan...increase my taxes...I will be voting NO for this bond...plain and simple
Hilary Jordan Kunz January 27, 2014 at 02:45 pm
Robert, I am in a situation similar to yours. I have a son going into FFMS, and a daughter trying toRead More convince me that she wants private school instead of North, (due to the conditions of the school, and the concern that cuts may have to be made to AP & IB programs). More than anything I want FFMS & North repaired. I will gladly and gratefully accept ANY guidance on how to "Make It Happen". I don't believe that at this time there is any way to rescind this weak bond. Are you aware of anyway to stop this runaway train? I don't disagree with your points, but I'm not comfortable going down another dead end path. This whole situation is a disaster, but the only opportunity we have to preserve all of the schools -unless there is some way to get this bond off the table- is to reserve the funds to repair the school, and then based upon a full assessment evaluate the entire district & float an inclusive bond. I feel the bond being forced was the first step in isolating Congers & the way it was presented to the public by the administration doesn't cover the full scope of what we are facing. If you have any way out of this...throw it out there. What we have now is awful.
Robert Ward Kurkela January 28, 2014 at 08:13 am
Hilary, I stood up at the December 12th meeting where the bond was to be finalized. At the beginningRead More of the meeting I spoke and said that a Congers only bond was a very bad idea. I stated that a district wide bond including Congers was the best option if any bond was to pass. I have blogged in various places that sometimes we all make mistakes and to acknowledge an error isn't a bad thing and to rescind the bond. In my opinion, the Board members who should've done this are the ones who were so adamant about passing a bond on November 14 with no plan, no information and nothing but pure emotions fueling them. They didn't listen. In reviewing my prior post where I wrote "Make It Happen" I may have been overly optimistic. I don't think anyone can do anything at this juncture. The bond is going out for a vote on February 4th and we need to vote regardless of how we ended up here.
Antonia Sambevski January 25, 2014 at 01:42 am
I just went to the district website and was reading the engineer reports for Congers School. IRead More invite others to do the same; The recommendations was the following: ______________________________________________________________________ from Mr. Thomas Ritzenthaler CSArch 19 Front Street Newburgh, New York 12550 "The following are our recommendations: 1. The gym area and the exterior area south of the wall should not be occupied. Although there are no indications that the wall is in imminent danger of collapse, high wind loads cannot be safely resisted by the wall. The potential collapse of the wall during high winds could block emergency exits, resulting in an unsafe occupancy of the school." ___________________________________________________________________ I read that as the school is completely habitable other than the gym and its exterior space and in the case of high winds a collapse might block emergency exits. Please correct me if I am wrong. Why couldn't school go on as usual. Close the Gym and rope off the exterior area to the south wall. Sure up the walls for the $60,000 to prevent the collapse during high winds. Spend another $100K to put up an insulated temporary fabric multipurpose building to be used for Gym and Assemblies etc. on the back field area and the kids could have been back in Congers by Columbus Day rather than having to have moved to St. Augustines at half the cost of renting for $300,000. Then the school board could have gone back to their jobs of figuring out how to save $10 million dollars in the budget rather than twist an turn to try to destroy a community and divide a district. We have been taken for a ride Congers!!! http://www.ccsd.edu/files/filesystem/CongersReport8-29-13.pdfistrict ccsd.edu
Rockland Resident January 25, 2014 at 01:47 am
I responded to the thread with Joe Rand's letter. I certainly respected his points but did notRead More agree with them. Redistricting is better than bankruptcy. Even with one school closed and redistricting, the schools won't be packed - there's been a decline in student enrollment over the past several years, so there is room right now. We closed schools in the past and things turned out fine - people still moved to New City and Congers, kids still got educated. A lot of people don't want any bond to pass and increase their taxes. Many others want a bond that also fixes their schools that need repairs as well, not just focuses on one.
mike sullivan January 25, 2014 at 08:24 am
Do not believe the only $26.00 taxes will go up.We MUST vote this bond down.Close the school andRead More redistrict
Congers240 January 21, 2014 at 03:21 pm
Thank you for your support Mr. Zebrowski
Christine DeMaio Krasny January 21, 2014 at 03:59 pm
Thank you for not taking the easy way out...our community and our children appreciate your support..
bj January 22, 2014 at 12:16 pm
Securing state support will help to take the excuse of cost out of the "should we repairRead More Congers?" question. CCSD must consider the report of the demographer in constructing a district plan that will address our infrastructure deficits and enrollment decline across the ENTIRE district. In my opinion, the current plan capitalized on the emergency closing of Congers Elementary School. The central administration and school board must rise to the challenge. We tell our students they must be innovators, risk takers to compete in the world. Actions speak louder than words!
Superintendent Dr. J. Thomas Morton
Rock1nRockland January 14, 2014 at 10:05 pm
Right on Phil and Myles. How about a retirement incentive for senior staff members? I'm not tooRead More sure what's involved in that, but new hires at I'm sure 1/2 or less the compensation might save a good amount. Closing schools is not the way to go!
Phil Leiter January 15, 2014 at 12:06 am
Dr. Morton mentioned potential retirements at the last Board meeting as somehow mitigating the staffRead More reductions he discussed. I'm not sure why. Retirement incentives have already been done to the point that teachers would have to be offered more to retire early than to stay on the payroll. The CCSD staff is pretty young as a result. He knows this, and Mr. LaNave has made that clear to the public. The only option left is to reduce staff based on the realignment to increase the number of children in class sections and to determine the number of optional staff we're willing to maintain.
steve January 18, 2014 at 12:24 pm
All points made are valid, but the system of procurement of funds is backwards. As I have saidRead More before is get multiple bids from vetted companies, include provisos thatork has to finished on time and up to code, penalties for work that comes in over budget and not on time. When you have a proper figure a bond issue will be much easier to pass. Also enforce penalties for the misuse of property that is not zoned according to the law and use part of those funds to put into the repair of the school. It's time for the politicians to show some backbone and stop bending over to 1 voter bloc
New City Madonna January 13, 2014 at 10:52 am
Christian, that sounds like quite a bit of displacement for the children back then. I believe itRead More certainly is fair to compare the 2 situations if what you're saying is true. Were special education children shuffled around when the Laurel Plains crisis hit? Now I'm curious to know how the Laurel Plains parents acted in public and at Board of Education meetings back then. Did they receive encouragement from parents of the other schools? From Congers parents?
Christian Jauntig January 13, 2014 at 10:49 pm
It is a very different situation. All took place during the school year, was bot a huge financialRead More burden on the district, as well as many other issues. I am not sure about the specifics of the special education program.
Christian Jauntig January 13, 2014 at 10:49 pm
Disgusted ClarkstownRES January 16, 2014 at 06:58 am
Christian...the 1.5 million in savings comes from the reduction in staff so that money would reduceRead More the budget year after year unless we decide to hire back that amount of staff...so that reduction does come from the bottom line of our budget. The $60K is a 1 time expense, that is not an expense that is paid out yearly....that was the point I was attempting to make. Bottom line is we need to reduce our budget (decrease expenses), consolidate our schools, which by the way has been discussed for several years, and continue to give our children a quality education. Going over numbers this seems like a logical solution because all the children can be housed in these other 2 buildings, this building is 90+ years old and needs extensive repair. That's all I'm saying
Christian Jauntig January 16, 2014 at 07:22 am
If no money at all is paid to Congers School (lets pretend for this post it doesnt exist) and we addRead More the staff cuts that were discussed into the expenses of the building, We are still left with 99.34% of the budget. That is not even 1% of our budget in "savings" (i say that because cutting staff is not considered saving to me)
One love March 6, 2014 at 12:33 am
So quiet lately. Amazing. Congrats to my fellow Clarkstown Residents for getting the YES vote outRead More There. It was amazing and I know we have the power to make a difference. And we will! Power in numbers!!